Alpha_1211 is offline Alpha_1211 Post #1  August 1,2009, 3:54am
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I'm going through a bit of emotional confusion right now, and need some help.

Two and a half years ago, I met a girl. We started dating about two weeks afterwards, and almost immediately fell in love. Yes, love...not infatuation. Well, several months go by and we move in together. So, I bring up the subject of moving our relationship to the next level. She agreed, so I popped the question. Of course, she said yes and we were engaged.

And then things started going down hill. I ran into a bump in my life. My grandfather - a man I always greatly respected and adored - died, and the next day I was laid-off from the best-paying job I've ever had. Well, due to my loss of financial backing, I had to quit school. I went unemployed for a few months, then found a small, low-paying job to make ends meet until I could find another decent job and go back to school.

However, in my attempts to revive some of the spark that had been lost during my unemployment and subsequent depression, I wound up missing work for a few days while she and I skipped out of town. Needless to say, my boss was done with me, and I was out of a job once again.

Fast forward a few months - more depression, loss of interest in the things we used to do. I find another crap job and same story - round two.

Three weeks later, she says she needs time to think and that the engagement is off. So, I pick up the pieces of my broken heart and move back home and give her the space she desired. The first few times I went to see her/called her, things usually went from casual catching up to me apologizing for my uselessness as a partner.

Fast forward several months - unemployed the whole time, depressed to an all-time low. I haven't spoken to her in months, hoping it would give her time to clear her thoughts. Well, I finally find something worth doing. The pay isn't great, but it's a hell of a job without the same, boring routine as all the rest of the job's I've had. It's different. I finally found an actual career.

So, hoping that my new found success will help patch things up, we start talking again and kick around the idea of getting back together. She came down for the weekend and a couple weeks later decided that there is no connection. However, she still loves me, she just says she's not "in love" with me. I still feel the same for her as the day we got engaged, but she just wants to be friends and be done with "us". We're on really good terms as friends...she's my best friend, and she knows that. But she is also the one person I can't live without. And it seems like the harder I try to prove myself, the less interested she gets.

She really does still love me, I can see it in her eyes. It hurts her to tell me she doesn't want to be with me, and that gives me the idea that there is something there...something I can build on for us to start over.

My question is how do I do that without alienating her? How do I reignite that old spark where we both feel a connection?
 
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She probably wants someone that has their life "together". This is extremely important to most women.

You sound like an emotional wreck in your posting. I'm very sorry if that sounds harsh, but it sounds like there are other things going on with you that you are not explicitly disclosing.

Concentrate on your life. That will also help to pull you out of your depression.
 
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Hi Alpha: I'm sorry you're going through a rough patch. However, the upside is that you found out she's not the wife for you.

Traditional wedding vows state: "For better, for worse. For richer, for poorer." When times were hard for you, she broke the engagement. She showed her true colors when faced with adversity.

Use this time to get your affairs in order, complete school, etc. I think you need to forego any thoughts of reigniting any "old sparks" with this woman. Pursuing her when she's made her intentions clear will make you look crazy. She's moved on - you should do the same.
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Hi Alpha, I'm sorry to hear you've been through such rough times! You don't sound like an emotional wreck to me. You sound like someone who is prone to depression and just starting out in your career. You also sound young. You haven't posted your age in your profile, but I'm guessing you're in your twenties?

I completely agree with MCMLXXII here:
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Traditional wedding vows state: "For better, for worse. For richer, for poorer." When times were hard for you, she broke the engagement. She showed her true colors when faced with adversity.
Marriage is all about supporting each other over time. This girl is not marriage material. She is also no longer interested in you. Time to move on.

I'd suggest you concentrate on yourself: build this new career you mention, learn about managing depression, and learn what makes you happy. And next time, I'd suggest that you spend much longer than "several months" getting to know someone's true character before asking them to move in with you/marry you.
 
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My guess is that during your times of hardship, you lost who you really are as a person - the person she fell in love with in the first place.

You are not to blame. Depression is a very serious illness that can destroy the best of us. But you've recovered, almost fully, which is admirable and inspirational to the rest of us. You've been through some real trying times, you've given it your all, and you've come out on top, well almost... there is a little bit more left to go on that journey of self-rediscovery.

You've been down and out, you've almost found yoursef again. Take that one final step - BELIEVE IT! As soon as you believe in yourself - the person your woman fell in love with in the first place - she will start believing it too.

There is only one small step left, but the last step can be as difficult to take as the first. It's a step away from trying to balance yourself on a tight rope and onto a firm ground of reality, the new reality, which is even better than the old. Because it's REAL and TRUE.

I can only encourage you to take this final step and wish both of you lots of luck!
 
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I have some ideas for you highlighted in red hope it helps, good luck.
Alpha_1211 wrote :
I'm going through a bit of emotional confusion right now, and need some help.
Two and a half years ago, I met a girl. We started dating about two weeks afterward, and almost immediately fell in love.

Maybe not infatuation...sounds more like obssession

Yes, love...not infatuation. Well, several months go by and we move in together. So, I bring up the subject of moving our relationship to the next level. She agreed, so I popped the question. Of course, she said yes and we were engaged.
And then things started going down hill. I ran into a bump in my life. My grandfather - a man I always greatly respected and adored - died, and the next day I was laid-off from the best-paying job I've ever had. Well, due to my loss of financial backing, I had to quit school. I went unemployed for a few months, then found a small, low-paying job to make ends meet until I could find another decent job and go back to
school.

Life can be unfair and an enormous challenge, with all sorts of losses. It's how you handle it


However, in my attempts to revive some of the spark that had been lost during my unemployment and subsequent depression, I wound up missing work for a few days while she and I skipped out of town.

Are you blaming her for you irresponsibility loosing a job?????

Needless to say, my boss was done with me, and I was out of a job once again.
Fast forward a few months - more depression, loss of interest in the things we used to do. I find another crap job and same story - round two.

You sound angry and bitter like a victim. Take responsibility for your fate, rather than continually blaming outside events and people.

Three weeks later, she says she needs time to think and that the engagement is off. So, I pick up the pieces of my broken heart and move back home and give her the space she desired. The first few times I went to see her/called her, things usually went from casual catching up to me apologizing for my uselessness as a partner.


Do you want to make her feel guilty for not accepting your "uselessness"

Fast forward several months - unemployed the whole time, depressed to an all-time low. I haven't spoken to her in months, hoping it would give her time to clear her thoughts. Well, I finally find something worth doing. The pay isn't great, but it's a hell of a job without the same, boring routine as all the rest of the job's I've had. It's different. I finally found an actual career.
So, hoping that my new found success will help patch things up, we start talking again and kick around the idea of getting back together. She came down for the weekend and a couple weeks later decided that there is no connection. However, she still loves me, she just says she's not "in love" with me. I still feel the same for her as the day we got engaged, but she just wants to be friends and be done with "us".

I don't blame her, your victim attitude and clingy, obsessive behavior is something any healthy person would back away from.


We're on really good terms as friends...she's my best friend, and she knows that. But she is also the one person I can't live without. And it seems like the harder I try to prove myself, the less interested she gets.
She really does still love me, I can see it in her eyes. It hurts her to tell me she doesn't want to be with me, and that gives me the idea that there is something there...something I can build on for us to start over.

This sounds more like projected wishful thinking

My question is how do I do that without alienating her? How do I reignite that old spark where we both feel a connection?

You can always just have whatever you want, even if you are obsessed with it. She is not one of your possessions, and you are not "entitled " to her love if it just isn't there for you. She said no, grow up and learn how to hear this.


 
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Thanks for the words, everyone. To answer a few questions:

I'm not an emotional wreck. I've just been through more than my share of crap for a 22 year old.
 
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Update:

Boy, am I glad we're through! She's been sleeping with two different guys!

Screw that crap. We're done. I don't want any part of it. I think I'm gonna go throw up now.
 
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MCMLXXII wrote :
Hi Alpha: I'm sorry you're going through a rough patch. However, the upside is that you found out she's not the wife for you.

Traditional wedding vows state: "For better, for worse. For richer, for poorer." When times were hard for you, she broke the engagement. She showed her true colors when faced with adversity.

Use this time to get your affairs in order, complete school, etc. I think you need to forego any thoughts of reigniting any "old sparks" with this woman. Pursuing her when she's made her intentions clear will make you look crazy. She's moved on - you should do the same.
While this may be true he showed his true colors by becoming a basket case when thing got tough. The saying "when the going gets tough, the tough get going" is true. One bit of your advice is sound though, he needs to get HIS life together before he can share it.
 
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Drop to your knees and thank the (fill in the blank) you didn't get married to her! It's called life dude and you're going through it. Now you can focus on yourself and do what you gotta do.
 
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