Do you give back jewellery when a relationship is over?


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harnomygirl is offline harnomygirl Post #51  August 29,2011, 2:59pm
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Nanette wrote :
hey wheres my post about a hummer being dirt cheap at 25k? i mean really 25k for a hummer??
I don't think she should have kept the Hummer either. Why would anyone want to keep something that was given as a promise of marriage when she isn't going to marry him? In my opinion, she just wants to punish him. I don't think the monetary value is that important to her because it isn't to most women I've met and I tend to generalize. She just knows that it is to him and she wants him to hurt. If he valued cash less she might have as well.

If the forensic nursing article is right, his attitude might really be putting his life at risk if she has as little self control as she seems to be exhibiting right now.
 
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TiffanyDiamond is offline TiffanyDiamond Post #53  August 30,2011, 7:31pm
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I would keep any jewelry given to me as a gift except if it is an heirloom piece. I would definitely return that. An engagement ring is a conditional gift and from what I understand about the law, if an engagement is broken by either party, for whatever reason, the ring has to be returned. I think that's only fair.
 
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TiffanyDiamond wrote :
I would keep any jewelry given to me as a gift except if it is an heirloom piece. I would definitely return that. An engagement ring is a conditional gift and from what I understand about the law, if an engagement is broken by either party, for whatever reason, the ring has to be returned. I think that's only fair.
It has to deal with contractual law. I was talking about this in my business law class recently about contracts, and the professor asked the question to the class on whether or not a engagement ring should be returned if the engagement was broken.

Everyone in the class except me said that the ring was hers to keep.

Of course, I was right. When getting a ring like that, it is a conditional contract with intent to marry. When it doesn't happen, the contract is void, and the ring is to be returned.
 
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the simple giving of a ring isnt necessairly a binding contract. unless he laid out terms, etc, and can provide evidence that he did, he has no contract
 
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We were talking about IL state law regarding the matter, as it is where I am. Take a look at : No.

Very interesting. I'm still trying to find Vann v. Vehrs, 260 Ill. App. 3d 648, 633 N.E.2d 102 (1994), which has the established ruling on this that cases nowadays cite.
 
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Mr_Right wrote :
We were talking about IL state law regarding the matter, as it is where I am. Take a look at : No..
if she agreed that it was just "a gift" then she could have kept it.

thanks for the tip.

i'm kidding. i'm not an attorney so i dont understand the rest of the reasons for the decision outside of the obvious statements ("a gift in contemplation of marriage") but it still doesnt meet all of the general criteria for a contract, at least not as far as i can see, and that was your original argument.
 
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Keep the bling-bling.

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