Wary_Lisa is offline Wary_Lisa Post #1  November 26,2008, 8:45am
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Im interested to know if this happens to others, why would he pursue me, tell me he loves me, and have a secrect life?


What should I look for as a key indicator? Right now it's a suspicion based on the fact that he has attended wild sex parties, appears to be very sexual in a kinky way, and meets with a men's group once a week.


Am I being overly critical/judgmental? He is a wonderful man.
 
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Wary_Lisa, wrote :


Right now it's a suspicion based on the fact that he has attended wild sex parties, appears to be very sexual in a kinky way, and meets with a men's group once a week.





what part of this did you find attractive about him in the first place??


 
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Wary_Lisa, wrote :

Im interested to know if this happens to others, why would he pursue me, tell me he loves me, and have a secrect life?


What should I look for as a key indicator? Right now it's a suspicion based on the fact that he has attended wild sex parties, appears to be very sexual in a kinky way, and meets with a men's group once a week.


Am I being overly critical/judgmental? He is a wonderful man.
If you are not comfortable with his past sex life, or if he wants these kinds of experiences to continue to be part of his sex life (and this is not something that you are amenable to), that is indeed a problem. But, that doesn't have to do with whether he is bisexual. It's difficult to see from your post what exactly is makingyou worry that he is having sex with men (I assume this is your worry). Certainly the fact that he meets with a men's group doesn't suggest that (is there some reason to think that the focus of the group is sexual in nature?). It sounds like you two need to talk about these issues directly so you can get a better sense of where you each stand.
 
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Men's group? Want to define that a little for us?
 
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* blinks * He goes to hookup parties and a place that he might be trying to cheat on you and you are woried about sexual orientation?


To each is own I guess, but if I were in the situation I would be more concerned about how loyal he was, more so than who he's attracted to. If I am with someone who is attracted to half the population or the entire population I don't care as long as I'm the one she comes home to and I'm the one that has her love, caring, and devotion. If the person I am with wants to sleep around, then the relationship ends. I tdoesn't matter whether it's with men or women.


Kind of sad that who he might be attracted to is more frightening than that he might not actually be honest and faithful with you....


You should be the center of your partner's world regardless of sexual orientation. You shouldn't have to compete with ANYONE woman or man.
 
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Wary_Lisa, wrote :

Im interested to know if this happens to others, why would he pursue me, tell me he loves me, and have a secrect life?


What should I look for as a key indicator? Right now it's a suspicion based on the fact that he has attended wild sex parties, appears to be very sexual in a kinky way, and meets with a men's group once a week.


Am I being overly critical/judgmental? He is a wonderful man.
"Wild Sex Parties" "A suspicion based on the fact"


Listen, you don't trust this guy already so you've really answered your own question. Whether you know for a fact that he's attending thesesperm donor partiesor suspect he is, it doesn't matter. If you've been with him long enough to know his behavior and prowling patterns, you know by your gut that he's in it up to the top of his head . . . and I do mean both.


If he's doing these things and not admitting to it, it doesn't matter if it's men, women or both. You are in danger of contracting something close to looking like a rash and being a permanent fixture in your immune system. If you're not insisting on protection during sex, you're running a huge risk here.


Being "careful" is not being critical or judgemental. You have a right to protect your health andthe emotions you're investing in a guy who says he loves you and yes, Virginia, some people do have secret lives . . . they're secret because they don't want to get caught and they get some sort of thrill out of it; usually at the expense of their partner.


Confront him, have him followed, ask his friends, your friends. Do what you need to to make sure this guy isn't putting you at risk, so I'd step away from this cause this is nuts! Really!
 
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Wary_Lisa, wrote :


Im interested to know if this happens to others, why would he pursue me, tell me he loves me, and have a secrect life?


What should I look for as a key indicator? Right now it's a suspicion based on the fact that he has attended wild sex parties, appears to be very sexual in a kinky way, and meets with a men's group once a week.


Am I being overly critical/judgmental? He is a wonderful man.


If you are not comfortable with his past sex life, or if he wants these kinds of experiences to continue to be part of his sex life (and this is not something that you are amenable to), that is indeed a problem. But, that doesn't have to do with whether he is bisexual. It's difficult to see from your post what exactly is makingyou worry that he is having sex with men (I assume this is your worry). Certainly the fact that he meets with a men's group doesn't suggest that (is there some reason to think that the focus of the group is sexual in nature?). It sounds like you two need to talk about these issues directly so you can get a better sense of where you each stand.
Thank you for your honesty. Im fighting my intuition on this one, he is very loving and very adoring to me. He treats me like a queen, and on so many levels we are incredibly compatible. He's a great Father, has a good career, is gifted intelligence and humor and warmth, but every fiber of my being tells me he cannot be faithful, and that he's not being honest with me. I really don't think there's another woman, but I think he has a "need" to be out with others sexually.


He made a comment when he had too much to drink one night; I can't remember the exact wording but it was definately related to watching a man in the bathroom, and I responded sharply that Ive never heard a straight man talk like that...he shut up quickly.


When I confronted him with being bi-sexual, he said "no way", and "don't you want to be happy?" I told him that I would neverbe enough for him, and that we should end this relationship. Talking the next day, he was very hurt, and told me his "dark secret" of meeting with the men's group to share "emotions about not feeling whole enough". However, on the three or four occasions I've talked to him after the "men's night out", he's clearly been drinking. and my experience with self help groups is not supporting alcohol.


Another observation is his need for regular phone sex, his whole persona changes...he's not mean or particularly nasty, but very descriptive and seems to have a strong desire for it.


From the sounds of your counsel, Im looking too far into the "good side" of him, and being stupid about the obvious.


Why would he lie? Is it because he can't change? And we wants to be accepted for all that he is? It's so incredibly sad to love someone for most of who they are, and not be able to accept the other parts of him.


 
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rg26,361430 wrote :

Men's group? Want to define that a little for us?
That's all he said, " men's group in which they meet to discuss their emotions do they aren't tempted to "prowl" around.
 
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I love the Dr. Jeckyl dn Mr. Hyde. descriptions. I don't know if i want want one in real life. There are too many genuine guys out there for you to choose from. Why waste time on a Batman character? For the uninitiated, that would be "Two Face" Move on. You don't need the drama.
 
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Altair is offline Altair Post #10  November 27,2008, 9:52am
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I guess if you see him on the new EH gay site you will no longer have to guess.
 
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