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mav32 is offline mav32 Post #1  November 18,2008, 12:05pm
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I dont feel comfortable having the girl i am seeing being sqeezed and touched (salsa dancing is fun but could be a lot of touching) by her guy friend. She says they just dance, i havnt gone because im brushing up on my lessons. Am i paranoid or just a jelous guy?

Ive been seeing her for 5 months and she has not been dancing with this guy ever since i've been seeing her but eventually she will want to and i have never told her not too. She says she would never cross that line and when she was married, her husband would let her go-but he didnt know how to dance nor did he want to learn-i do and am working on getting better.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. In about a month i'll feel comfortable to go with her just the two of us and with her girl friends but if she wants to go with her guy friend that she grew up with should i care?
 
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I dont feel comfortable having the girl i am seeing being sqeezed and touched (salsa dancing is fun but could be a lot of touching) by her guy friend. She says they just dance, i havnt gone because im brushing up on my lessons. Am i paranoid or just a jelous guy? Ive been seeing her for 5 months and she has not been dancing with this guy ever since i've been seeing her but eventually she will want to and i have never told her not too. She says she would never cross that line and when she was married, her husband would let her go-but he didnt know how to dance nor did he want to learn-i do and am working on getting better. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. In about a month i'll feel comfortable to go with her just the two of us and with her girl friends but if she wants to go with her guy friend that she grew up with should i care?
Wow this is a tough one and I hope you get some replies on this. I was recently asked by a male friend if I want to take swing dance lessons with him. I'd absolutely love to, but he has a girlfriend. If he were my man, I wouldn't want him dancing with another woman to that length of time. In my opinion dancing together (for the duration that lessons and ballroom type dancing require) is quite romantic and I myself had always hoped to find someone who wants to ballroom dance with me. Nothing wrong with switching partners during a song, having fun w/other couples, etc, but you know what I mean
 
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I dont feel comfortable having the girl i am seeing being sqeezed and touched (salsa dancing is fun but could be a lot of touching) by her guy friend. She says they just dance, i havnt gone because im brushing up on my lessons. Am i paranoid or just a jelous guy? Ive been seeing her for 5 months and she has not been dancing with this guy ever since i've been seeing her but eventually she will want to and i have never told her not too. She says she would never cross that line and when she was married, her husband would let her go-but he didnt know how to dance nor did he want to learn-i do and am working on getting better. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. In about a month i'll feel comfortable to go with her just the two of us and with her girl friends but if she wants to go with her guy friend that she grew up with should i care?
Wow this is a tough one and I hope you get some replies on this. I was recently asked by a male friend if I want to take swing dance lessons with him. I'd absolutely love to, but he has a girlfriend. If he were my man, I wouldn't want him dancing with another woman to that length of time. In my opinion dancing together (for the duration that lessons and ballroom type dancing require) is quite romantic and I myself had always hoped to find someone who wants to ballroom dance with me. Nothing wrong with switching partners during a song, having fun w/other couples, etc, but you know what I mean
thanks for the reply, i too hope i get a lot of responses to this one. so i can see both points of view, I feel the same way you do. But, wasn't sure if it was just me. As mentioned she hasn't gone since we've been seeing each other and hasn't even asked or brought it up. Which, i guess could be viewed as a good thing because she's into me, i'm sure she will want to down the road and im not sure how i should handle that once it comes up.


 
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Is she willing to wait for you to catch up on your lessons? Is she looking forward to you being her new dance partner? Ask her.
 
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Well, I'm a salsa dancer and my new guy is not. He's willing to take lessons but until then I'm still gonna go dancing. Once he gets good enough I'll even encourage him to dance with others, it'll make him a better dancer.It's completely innocent. In classes partners arerotated every 10 minutes or so and it doesn't feel romantic at all. It's too much work!


Most salsa events are not meat markets, people are there to dance. I'll dance with a different guy each song, but some people I know from classes or from dancing with them before I'll dance with them more. We often go in groups of guys and girls, everyone dances with each other, and there's no "bumping and grinding". This isn't like tango, and it's very easy to keep your distance. Some sexy moves I'll only do if I'mdating the guy I'm dancing with. Most people are too busy having fun and concentrating on dancing to try to flirt. Most guys are VERY concentrated on properly leading their partner as well.


I hope this eases your mind a little...
 
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You get close in dancing. Deal with it. I've yet to hear of anyone in the local dance scene upset over attempted gropes or anything liket that and I'm often dancing 6-7 days a week.


That you're taking lessons is good, but many places don't expect you to be perfect and I know many people that only go to one or two lessons before going to parties for salsa or ballroom dancing.


You're basically keeping her from doing something she loves. I know if a partner tried to do that to me, or if I had to choose between ballroom dancing and a partner, the partner would go. If you love someone, you love them and want them to be happy.


On a related note, I had a date a few weeks ago and we met at an Indian restaurant of her choosing and the first thing I put on my plate at the buffet was rice, just because I wasn't interested in what came right before it. So she took time to check out what I was getting and said, "I just want to make sure you put something adventerous on your plate."


Then when I start talking a little about ballroom dance, she starts tensing up and doesn't even like hearing me talk about it. Considering that I compete and expect to compete for scholarships one day, that was pretty much all it took for me to decide I wasn't going to see her again. She wants me to be adventerous, but is so scared of even hearing me talk about something I absolutely love to do (and has helped me lose 7-8 belt notches so far!) that I realize I have to drop the subject in under a minute.


It's not exactly the same, but I'm not going to date someone that doesn't even want to hear about something I love. How happy do you think she'll be if you keep her from doing what she obviously enjoys? Yes, there's touching while dancing, but it's not about groping or feeling her up. If you want to continue with her, then you'll have to deal with this.
 
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Well; how romantic do you feel toward the women you dance with as part of your dance lessons? Probably not so much... Dancing is great exercise and a fun social (and sometimes ethnic/cultural) activity. Dancing with the person one loves (or desires) transforms it into something much more, but the act of dancing itself doesn't imply that one is looking for romance with one's partner. You say that she and her dance partner grew up together, and have presumably been dancing for years; wouldn't they have gotten together by now if they were going to?


Don't wait another month before you feel "ready" to join her out dancing (you may not feel "ready" then, either). Go ahead and go now and just have fun (a lot of places even have free lessons at the beginning of the evening). If your steps aren't right - who cares? And, you can learn a lot just by watching others trip the light fantastic. Plus, she will appreciate that you are putting her ahead of your own self-consciousness and apprehension. (If her guy friend comes along, so much the better! If you spend a little more time with him you may begin to feel more comfortable about their friendship...)
 
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I dont feel comfortable having the girl i am seeing being sqeezed and touched (salsa dancing is fun but could be a lot of touching) by her guy friend. She says they just dance, i havnt gone because im brushing up on my lessons. Am i paranoid or just a jelous guy? Ive been seeing her for 5 months and she has not been dancing with this guy ever since i've been seeing her but eventually she will want to and i have never told her not too. She says she would never cross that line and when she was married, her husband would let her go-but he didnt know how to dance nor did he want to learn-i do and am working on getting better. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. In about a month i'll feel comfortable to go with her just the two of us and with her girl friends but if she wants to go with her guy friend that she grew up with should i care?
Uh . . . and her husband divorced her becauzzzzz . . . ?


I don't think it's unusual that you have these feelings of jealousy . . . only I wouldn't call it quite that. It's a sense that you want to be the man she's the most intimate with and Salsa dancing is a "very" physically intimate dance. It's like having vertical sex, it's the only way I can describe it, so yeah, I'd be a little more then annoyed if the guy I was seeing was doing a vertical Mambo with another woman.


You have every right to want that particular kind of intimacy be just between you two. It's not about jealousy, it's about respecting that intimacy. The relationship is very new as well, so naturally you're going to want to spend more time with her going out and doing whatever. She needs to understand that and give the guy up and start dancing that way with you on several levels, btw.


I play guitar with some pretty good male musicians. It'sa very intimate way of being when two people with the same passion share it, there's just no getting around it. I just don't act on the spark because I know it's the music we love. However, when I was with my ex, he played guitar with me and I wouldn't play with anyone else because that was our intimacy as well. Kinda get the drift here?


You guys need to get to the point where you trust each other and you're not there yet, nor is it wrong that you're not. Trust is earned over time and sitting her down and letting her know this is a problem for you because you feel you want to have that intimacy together is telling her the truth and also telling her how much you care about wanting to be with her. How she responds will let you know if the relationship is worth keeping.


And don't let her throw this "You're trying to control me" crap at you. It's nothing of the sort and if she can't give up dancing with some guy to dance with her real partner, go find another dance floor with someone who will.
 
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Well; how romantic do you feel toward the women you dance with as part of your dance lessons? Probably not so much... Dancing is great exercise and a fun social (and sometimes ethnic/cultural) activity. Dancing with the person one loves (or desires) transforms it into something much more, but the act of dancing itself doesn't imply that one is looking for romance with one's partner. You say that she and her dance partner grew up together, and have presumably been dancing for years; wouldn't they have gotten together by now if they were going to?


Don't wait another month before you feel "ready" to join her out dancing (you may not feel "ready" then, either). Go ahead and go now and just have fun (a lot of places even have free lessons at the beginning of the evening). If your steps aren't right - who cares? And, you can learn a lot just by watching others trip the light fantastic. Plus, she will appreciate that you are putting her ahead of your own self-consciousness and apprehension. (If her guy friend comes along, so much the better! If you spend a little more time with him you may begin to feel more comfortable about their friendship...)
neardc, you make some good points, yeah you're right. thanks.
 
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I dont feel comfortable having the girl i am seeing being sqeezed and touched (salsa dancing is fun but could be a lot of touching) by her guy friend. She says they just dance, i havnt gone because im brushing up on my lessons. Am i paranoid or just a jelous guy? Ive been seeing her for 5 months and she has not been dancing with this guy ever since i've been seeing her but eventually she will want to and i have never told her not too. She says she would never cross that line and when she was married, her husband would let her go-but he didnt know how to dance nor did he want to learn-i do and am working on getting better. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. In about a month i'll feel comfortable to go with her just the two of us and with her girl friends but if she wants to go with her guy friend that she grew up with should i care?
Uh . . . and her husband divorced her becauzzzzz . . . ?


I don't think it's unusual that you have these feelings of jealousy . . . only I wouldn't call it quite that.* It's a sense that you want to be the man she's the most intimate with and Salsa dancing is a "very" physically intimate dance.* It's like having vertical sex, it's the only way I can describe it, so yeah, I'd be a little more then annoyed if the guy I was seeing was doing a vertical Mambo with another woman.*


You have every right to want that particular kind of intimacy be just between you two.* It's not about jealousy, it's about respecting that intimacy.* The relationship is very new as well, so naturally you're going to want to spend more time with her going out and doing whatever.* She needs to understand that and give the guy up and start dancing that way with you on several levels, btw.


I play guitar with some pretty good male musicians.* It's*a very intimate way of being when two people with the same passion share it, there's just no getting around it.* I just don't act on the spark because I know it's the music we love.* However, when I was with my ex, he played guitar with me and I wouldn't play with anyone else because that was our intimacy as well.* Kinda get the drift here?


You guys need to get to the point where you trust each other and you're not there yet, nor is it wrong that you're not.* Trust is earned over time and sitting her down and letting her know this is a problem for you because you feel you want to have that intimacy together is telling her the truth and also telling her how much you care about wanting to be with her.* How she responds will let you know if the relationship is worth keeping.


And don't let her throw this "You're trying to control me" crap at you.* It's nothing of the sort and if she can't give up dancing with some guy to dance with her real partner, go find another dance floor with someone who will.
Songryder, you are definetly someone who communicates things out, i can appreciate your in put, thanks. I'm picking up salsa dancing pretty good, i can dance to all kinds of music and pick things up easliy, and it's fun. anyway, thanks again for the in put, much appreciated.
 
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