Men who are over 45 and never been married


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sodturner is offline sodturner Post #61  January 14,2009, 7:04pm
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Now I know why women don't date me because I'm over 45! Thank you for clearing thay up!
 
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I think that it depends on the individual. You have no way of knowing if he's "relationship material" until you get to know him better.


Some of the single men I know who are in their 40's and 50's are more emotionally desireable and fun to spend time with than others I've met who are divorced, just because of the lack of bitterness and anger.
 
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While everyone should get the benefit of the doubt, and each person should be judged as an individual, I think you are right to think of it as a red flag. There are so many good, interesting, attractive, caring women out there. I think at a certain point, if a man hasn't been committed to a relationship in some way with someone, it does indicate some potential problems with emotional intimacy.


I'm 49, and was widowed 7 years. I dated a 45 year old man who had never married, or lived with a woman, and am not sure how long his past relationships tended to last. All I know is my situation. At first, he appeared very interested--wanting to see me 3 times in a week, and telling me that he loved me and I was his soul mate way too eary--within a month of our meeting. He wrote beautiful emails, and talked about all sorts of future plans. Then, right around the 2 month mark, his letters became briefer, he stopped saying the workd "love", his phone calls became very boring--about the only topic of conversation would be whether he went out for lunch, what he ordered, etc. When I asked him about why his behavior had changed, he admitted to "second thoughts" about our relationship, but insisted it was because he was allergic to my 2 cats. I began a long, expensive process to dedander my home, and he kept insisting he wanted to see me and for things to work out. However, he stopped all physical contact with me, walked 5 feet away from me--basically treated me as if I had "cooties." He insisted this was because he now realized he was physically allergic to me (even if I showered, and put on clean clothes right before leaving the house). And he was certainly not physically sickened by me when we first met! His behavior kept getting worse, in an extremely passive-aggressive way, until I made the decision to break up with him after he told me "I can smell your house on you" and that my house "smelled funny."


I think he just couldn't handle possibly geting seriously emotionally attached to someone and the 2 month mark was significant. I'd previously dated a divorced man who really enjoyed being with me, and we had a very enjoyable, stressfree, fun relationship. Then, he got more quiet and moody, and began speaking of his ex-wife and marriage in very bitter, scornfull tones. The last time I saw him, he told me how much he was looking forward to our first overnight trip together--then the next day he dumped me by email!!! This was also 2 months after we began dating. A divorced friend with an extensive dating history told me that for years, she tended to find an excuse to break up with someone at around the 2 month point, "because then it started to feel like things could get serious" and she was too ambivilent about risking being hurt again. Then, she wanted a relationship, but tended to choose men who treated her badly--which again sabatoged things.


I believe both these men were emotionally damaged--and the never married one didn't even realize how emotionallydamaged he was. He just said that he hadn't found the right person yet. He latched onto the cats as an excuse and his behavior worsened as I was finishing up the dedandering the house--because what excuse could he come up with next? I think he was looking for some perfect person (he was a rather fussy engineer) and will keep finding some fault or reason to reject whatever woman he dates in the future. And the way he went about our breakup made me refer to being dumped by email as "the good old days..."


So, my advice is: give him a chance but be very alert and trusting of what your gut instincts are telling you. I let things go on way too long because I was holding onto that romantic fantasy he was projecting at first--and am trusting and want to believe that people are telling me the truth. In a way, he was. I think a small part of him did want things to work out, which is why he kept insisting on us trying to work things out....


Good luck to you--and watch out for behavior changes at the 2 month mark!





 
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Being a man--not a guy and not a boy--who happens to be very slightly over the ripe old age of 45 and having never been married (or even close to it), I guess I have some serious problem, be it emotional, psychological or mental. That is, of course, if I'minterpreting correctly select comments left on thismessage board thing by certain members. I suppose it neverentered my consciousness that marriage wasan essential component to one's, well, happiness and well-being, and if a non-female kind of person reaches his mid-forties and has never married, then that's a sign--a serious sign--that such aperson is flawed in some major way, so much so that any prudent anddiscerning woman should be rather suspicious and probably avoid him and certainly not bother getting "involved" with such a odd bloke.


But I digress just a little. Certainly there are many fellowsin their mid-forties who have some kind of problem (or problems) and thisperhaps accounts for the reason they have never married. They very well could suffer froman emotional, psychological or mental disorder or ailment. They could be painfully shy, timid, afraid (around and/or among women, of course); they could lack self-esteem or confidence and suffer from a poor self-image. Their problems, issues and inner demons just prevent them fromentering the state of marriage (and all the subsequent marital bliss that comes along with it). But it does not necessarily indicate or mean they do have such problems and issues. And yet many males who are married or were married suffer from those same problems and issues that plague their never-married brethren. But they were able to take that leap of faith into marriage, which is all fine and good, even thoughfor some it had a disastrous result, which is not so fine and good (especially for their wives).


Anyway, I certainly owe it to myself and other members to thinkabout and ponder this topic a little futher. While I very much enjoyed readingeveryone's comments, I think some portrayed (or betrayed) a certain lack of respectand appreciationfor the almost unlimited variations which are inherent in the male species of the human race regarding age (45 and over)and marriage (orabsence thereof). Speaking for myself--which issomething I must do since no one will do it for me but, then again, I wouldn't want anyone doing it for me--I'llsimplyconclude by making a sincere yet, I hope, not condescending observation. It is quitepresumptious to make sweeping, general and universal judgments with regard to this topic. Even awoman who has known or dated a 45-year-young or older man who has never married can, of course, only make statements(and draw conclusions) from that particular experience (with that particular man). Butdrawing inferences from that, while understandable to a certain extent, is dangerous, for each and every oneof us hasour own unique backgrounds, upbringings, histories(and stories) ... and they are not allunivocal. Also, it is veryrevealing (at least to me) what is being written here by certain members, for even I am capable (for the most part) of connecting the dots and seeing what is ultimately being said (that is, um, the bigger picture).


That's all for now. My apologies for rambling(on).


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Interesting thread. One of my best friends is male aged 40, he has never been married, is intelligent, good looking, good fun and very charming. His dad died when he was small and his mum was disabled from when he was a teenager and he cared for her into his early 30s. He would be a great catch for the right person, he has his little foibles but don't we all. He would love to marry and raise a family, but as you all know its very difficult meeting the opposite sex socially these days especially if you don't go clubbing.


I was married for 15 years to my only boyfriend and he died 12 years ago and I have never met anyone else.I am more inexperienced with the opposite sex than my friend is, I was just lucky that i met someone I wanted to commit to when I was young.
 
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JWinLA is offline JWinLA Post #65  February 8,2009, 2:10pm
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I'm over 40 and never married. I'm also a virgin and never been in any relationship. I can't say I'm proud about this. I think it has to do with low self-esteem and lack of self-confidence on my part. I could never approach females as much as I desired them.
 
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jkpbme is offline jkpbme Post #66  February 8,2009, 5:54pm
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There are quite a few people (male & female, myself included) in their 40s who have never been married & haven't been close. Some of us haven't because of responsibilities, concentrating on career, etc. Also some of us just aren't willing to settle for just anybody to be in a relationship. Some of us have seen to many broken relationships and don't want one for ourselves. Some of us believe there is someone special created just for us & we'd rather wait for that special someone.
 
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DeniseRyan is offline DeniseRyan Post #67  February 25,2009, 6:49pm
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Just remember that often the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. All these folks who said they would marry if they met the right person apparently haven't met the right person in what - almost 30 years? Hmmmm........
 
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okay, so I have been in a relationship with a fourty -eight year old man who has never been married. He and I were friends and graduated from the same high school togehter. I went through a wirlwind of a divorce and he saw me through this, I went through a tough time at work. a medical condition that caused the parting of the ways between myself and my employer. All along he has said that "when the future takes us there" to get married. Two years ago he wrapped his arms around me and said "I want you to be my wife", "some day I want you to be my wife" I thought he was proposing there. It was at the three year mark of dating. I had been divorced a year legally. So, the last two years we have been looking at houses to purchase with no ring on my finger which he will not pop the question until there is an "affordable" house. I am not unrealistic just want to stay in the school district where my child is at. He has moved away from that idea bit by bit. He says he wants to live under one roof and be together yet, here we are paying 1695.00 combined for rent. He has never owned and is scared to death to purchase a home. But, he wants to live under one roof together and be married yet there is no ring. no movement forward just a perpetual frozen state. My lease is up in June, I was discharged from my job about three weeks ago that I had worked at for nine years. I have put off moving out of the apartment for two years because I took his suggestion and his hope we would finda house but, I firmly believe he would not ask me to marry him nor would I say yes because of the comment that if he proposes it would cause me to really put pressure on him to buy a house. I cannot stay in this relationship...he is fourty eight and not ready. How can a fourty eight year old man not be ready? He will be retiring in eighteen months early. He dosn't have a college education to fufill yet, he isn't ready....I don't get it. So, I move on go back to school, take care of my child and purchase a home for the both of us through a land trust non profit organization. I have done it right this time...not lived with a man due to wanting my child to get the right message yet, she still sees a man who will not commit to her mother or that will not be there 100%like her father. I also see this. If he wanted to be under one roof he would be there 100%, he would be there for my childs play tonight. I will not waste away...I am a survivor and will do so. He was there to fix my car alot so...now I go tomorrow and get AAA and purchase a tow package so I am not stranded. He was there to help me move, I will hire two guys and a truck to move me next time. There are positive alternatives to establishing a great sense of independence. I am seeing what I can do with what I have. I am saddend that my fourty eight year old man I love will be left in the dust by me moving forward in mine and I am motivated to kick up some serious dust. It is hard and difficult to have a relationship when one is frozen by his own fears. I just can't do it anymore. I don't have much hope for confirmed bacholors who others are dating unless they want to have a life partner...how is that a partner when you don't make a house a home together? I don't know. We have been together in a dating relationship for five years in April. I just can't do it anymore. I want' more in my life and my daughters life. I would like that relationship where we can make a house a home, talk over a glass of wine at night or coffee in the morning on the deck on the back pourch or sit by the fire at night. I would like to be with someone who enjoys to be on the lakes, enjoys owning a dog and a cat and likes to experience new places and who believes in communication as the foundation of a relationship and will commit on working on it. So, I have to try and be satisfied where I am for right now and try to develop myself at the age of fourty seven and get involved in doing and seeing with my child. I will grieve the relationship that could have been but, there is something in him that will not allow him to move forward. He says I am a great gal, he loves me very much....I just don't get it.
 
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OK,come on. Would everyone be quite so harsh if the person was female? I am 51. I was engaged at one time, but got out of the emotionally desolate situation before I could be pulled down to his level. It was one of the most difficult decisions that I had to make.


I am leading a very full life. I have done things that at one time I only dreamed of doing. I have travelled to places that I never even knew were there. I would love to have a companion,mate,male type person with whom to share all of this. However, I am not waiting for that person to suddenly show up. If I had done that, I would have missed a whole lot of adventures.


Look beyond the age. Look at the person. Yes, there are some wierd people out there, but they can be 25, 35,45, or older...Best of luck..








 
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OBeth,337349 wrote :


I agree 100%. There is something perhaps not wrong for him and the lifestyle he has chosen but there is something fundamentally wrong with him and his personality. It's just not normal nor natural for a person to not want to pair up with a mate at some point in their emotional maturing. My guess and also based on personal experience dating a 53 year old bachelor is that they have some mental health issue that they guard very carefully and have devised a system for coping that cannot let anyone close enough for fear of being found out. In the case of my 53 year old bachelor he had severe social anxiety at the very least. He looked like a deer caught in headlights if he had to interact with more than one well known to him person at a time. His way of coping was to have very cloistered relationships with just one woman in a very blue moon. It was very sad for me because otherwise he was a very talented, charming, attractive and fun companion but I just couldn't accept that he would never, ever be my date among friends or in familiar public places. I am 100% certain that there was no other woman...I visted him in his home as often as he did in mine and stopped by unannouced in the early days because I didn't understand what he was hiding and was suspicious that it was another woman - which it was not. So yes, run Forrest run and don't look back...you may fall in love with one of the emotionally handicapped guys and it will only lead to heartbreak.


You've made some incredible assumptions in your post. There's alot of folks who married in their 20's who have "mental health issues". Your experience with a single individual does not make you an expert on an entire class of people. Please refrain from such outlandish assumptions. People are trying hard here to make improvements and more forward with their lives. Posts like this only hinder their efforts.


 
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