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A friend of mine is 48. He never knew his father and was an only child. His mother had cancer for 23 years. He cared for all that time without regard to his personal or professional life. Luckily he has a good job - he is a mechanic for a public transportation authority. He is active in his church and recently became involved with the big brother program.


I think that there were some circumstances in his life that prevented him from being in a relationship or married.
Kudos to your friend for caring for his mother.
- November 12th, 2008, 08:15 am
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I don't think that there is anything wrong with a man who has waited to find the love of his life. In fact, I think it is pretty smart. I wish I had done the same thing. It would have saved me a lot of heartache. I have a very good friend who is 45, is not married. I asked him why one day andhegave me tworeasons: One, he really wasn't ready to get married until the last four or five years, Secondly, He wanted something real and that a lot of women he had met played a lot of games with him. He also has 3 older sisters, one married young, one married right before she turned 50 and the third one hasn't been married either. They are all very respectable people with good jobs and great personalities. I don't think there any problem with waiting to marry.


I also have a cousin who is in her mid-40's who has never married. She has lived a very rich life. She has done things I have only dreamed of doing. She hasn't given up on finding the right man but I know she gets lonely.


To say that people who have never been married by their 40's are incapable of healthy relationships is a veryjudgemental statement.
- November 12th, 2008, 08:42 am
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I don't think that there is anything wrong with a man who has waited to find the love of his life. In fact, I think it is pretty smart. I wish I had done the same thing. It would have saved me a lot of heartache. I have a very good friend who is 45, is not married. I asked him why one day andhegave me tworeasons: One, he really wasn't ready to get married until the last four or five years, Secondly, He wanted something real and that a lot of women he had met played a lot of games with him. He also has 3 older sisters, one married young, one married right before she turned 50 and the third one hasn't been married either. They are all very respectable people with good jobs and great personalities. I don't think there any problem with waiting to marry.


I also have a cousin who is in her mid-40's who has never married. She has lived a very rich life. She has done things I have only dreamed of doing. She hasn't given up on finding the right man but I know she gets lonely.


To say that people who have never been married by their 40's are incapable of healthy relationships is a veryjudgemental statement.
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- November 12th, 2008, 01:33 pm
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My first reaction to the question was , yeah I would think something aint right with them, however maybe this is more wide spread then I know and after seeing some of the post , maybe some people just do wait, just dont do it . So I would say that we should not be prejudice against them , plus consider this, I think I would rather date someone who has never been married then someone who has been married 10 times.


I think the bigger problem I would have is the fact that if they have never been married I would assume they never had children. Now for me , and me alone, not everyone , I think I need a man who has been a father. I am so very close to my children that I will need someone who can completely understand that kind of unconditional love. They will understand that if they hurt, I hurt. If they cry , I cry. If they need, I provide , if I can. I would not do well with a man at all who didnt understand this. Maybe men who have no children , would understand , but some how I am thinking that they would not. So for me , I got to have a daddy.
- November 12th, 2008, 01:51 pm
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This is another thing that is specific to an individual person, you really can't assign a sweeping statement to cover everyone over 45 (or any age). I'm almost 40 & have never been married but I can promise you that it's nothing to do with my heinous or lacking personality. As we get older it becomes really difficult to find someone decent that you want to date, and combine this with the fact that most people as they get older will get a bit more selective about who they date, as compared with back at college when many of us would just go out and have fun dates with most half-decent people of the opposite sex.


The way things are looking for me, it's certainly quitelikely that I'll still be unmarried at 45 myself. Again, nothing to do with my personality or flaws or inability to relate to another human being in the same house, but more a consequence of having no intention of just settling for the next guy that lands in my eH inbox.
- November 12th, 2008, 02:46 pm
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Red Sox Girl wrote :

This is another thing that is specific to an individual person, you really can't assign a sweeping statement to cover everyone over 45 (or any age). I'm almost 40 & have never been married but I can promise you that it's nothing to do with my heinous or lacking personality. As we get older it becomes really difficult to find someone decent that you want to date, and combine this with the fact that most people as they get older will get a bit more selective about who they date, as compared with back at college when many of us would just go out and have fun dates with most half-decent people of the opposite sex.


The way things are looking for me, it's certainly quitelikely that I'll still be unmarried at 45 myself. Again, nothing to do with my personality or flaws or inability to relate to another human being in the same house, but more a consequence of having no intention of just settling for the next guy that lands in my eH inbox.
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- November 12th, 2008, 05:10 pm
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This may not be the most popular outlook about this post and there certainly are more people than I would have imagined not married by 45, but I would have to agree with OBeth. Not to say that everyone who is mid-40 plus and unmarried has some type of personality flaw but, generally, and in general, when someone reaches their mid-40's and have never been married or close to it, there is something wrong within them. Usually it could be the result of bad childhood (abandonment issues, fear of rejection, etc.) but there is usually something not quite right with the thinking upstairs. I have met men who were around 40 and had never been married. Every guythat I have met that was in this situation seemed to be somewhat anti-social and not a great lover of people in general. So, yes, I have learned to take it real slow with men who are in this situation.


Funny thing is that you meet people who are of the same mindset that you are and when I met both of these guys, my mind was not at it's best and I was feeling anti-social myself. I have since got that straightened out and no longer attract these type of men either. I still speak with them from time to time and I feel sorry for them that they do not know the joy of having friends and family to socialize with. But it is their own doing like it was mine at that time.
- November 12th, 2008, 09:32 pm
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Being a man--not a guy and not a boy--who happens to be very slightly over the ripe old age of 45 and having never been married (or even close to it), I guess I have some serious problem, be it emotional, psychological or mental. That is, of course, if I'minterpreting correctly select comments left on thismessage board thing by certain members. I suppose it neverentered my consciousness that marriage wasan essential component to one's, well, happiness and well-being, and if a non-female kind of person reaches his mid-forties and has never married, then that's a sign--a serious sign--that such aperson is flawed in some major way, so much so that any prudent anddiscerning woman should be rather suspicious and probably avoid him and certainly not bother getting "involved" with such a odd bloke.


But I digress just a little. Certainly there are many fellowsin their mid-forties who have some kind of problem (or problems) and thisperhaps accounts for the reason they have never married. They very well could suffer froman emotional, psychological or mental disorder or ailment. They could be painfully shy, timid, afraid (around and/or among women, of course); they could lack self-esteem or confidence and suffer from a poor self-image. Their problems, issues and inner demons just prevent them fromentering the state of marriage (and all the subsequent marital bliss that comes along with it). But it does not necessarily indicate or mean they do have such problems and issues. And yet many males who are married or were married suffer from those same problems and issues that plague their never-married brethren. But they were able to take that leap of faith into marriage, which is all fine and good, even thoughfor some it had a disastrous result, which is not so fine and good (especially for their wives).


Anyway, I certainly owe it to myself and other members to thinkabout and ponder this topic a little futher. While I very much enjoyed readingeveryone's comments, I think some portrayed (or betrayed) a certain lack of respectand appreciationfor the almost unlimited variations which are inherent in the male species of the human race regarding age (45 and over)and marriage (orabsence thereof). Speaking for myself--which issomething I must do since no one will do it for me but, then again, I wouldn't want anyone doing it for me--I'llsimplyconclude by making a sincere yet, I hope, not condescending observation. It is quitepresumptious to make sweeping, general and universal judgments with regard to this topic. Even awoman who has known or dated a 45-year-young or older man who has never married can, of course, only make statements(and draw conclusions) from that particular experience (with that particular man). Butdrawing inferences from that, while understandable to a certain extent, is dangerous, for each and every oneof us hasour own unique backgrounds, upbringings, histories(and stories) ... and they are not allunivocal. Also, it is veryrevealing (at least to me) what is being written here by certain members, for even I am capable (for the most part) of connecting the dots and seeing what is ultimately being said (that is, um, the bigger picture).


That's all for now. My apologies for rambling(on).
- November 13th, 2008, 02:04 am
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Nicomacheus wrote :

Being a man--not a guy and not a boy--who happens to be very slightly over the ripe old age of 45 and having never been married (or even close to it), I guess I have some serious problem, be it emotional, psychological or mental. That is, of course, if I'minterpreting correctly select comments left on thismessage board thing by certain members. I suppose it neverentered my consciousness that marriage wasan essential component to one's, well, happiness and well-being, and if a non-female kind of person reaches his mid-forties and has never married, then that's a sign--a serious sign--that such aperson is flawed in some major way, so much so that any prudent anddiscerning woman should be rather suspicious and probably avoid him and certainly not bother getting "involved" with such a odd bloke.


But I digress just a little. Certainly there are many fellowsin their mid-forties who have some kind of problem (or problems) and thisperhaps accounts for the reason they have never married. They very well could suffer froman emotional, psychological or mental disorder or ailment. They could be painfully shy, timid, afraid (around and/or among women, of course); they could lack self-esteem or confidence and suffer from a poor self-image. Their problems, issues and inner demons just prevent them fromentering the state of marriage (and all the subsequent marital bliss that comes along with it). But it does not necessarily indicate or mean they do have such problems and issues. And yet many males who are married or were married suffer from those same problems and issues that plague their never-married brethren. But they were able to take that leap of faith into marriage, which is all fine and good, even thoughfor some it had a disastrous result, which is not so fine and good (especially for their wives).


Anyway, I certainly owe it to myself and other members to thinkabout and ponder this topic a little futher. While I very much enjoyed readingeveryone's comments, I think some portrayed (or betrayed) a certain lack of respectand appreciationfor the almost unlimited variations which are inherent in the male species of the human race regarding age (45 and over)and marriage (orabsence thereof). Speaking for myself--which issomething I must do since no one will do it for me but, then again, I wouldn't want anyone doing it for me--I'llsimplyconclude by making a sincere yet, I hope, not condescending observation. It is quitepresumptious to make sweeping, general and universal judgments with regard to this topic. Even awoman who has known or dated a 45-year-young or older man who has never married can, of course, only make statements(and draw conclusions) from that particular experience (with that particular man). Butdrawing inferences from that, while understandable to a certain extent, is dangerous, for each and every oneof us hasour own unique backgrounds, upbringings, histories(and stories) ... and they are not allunivocal. Also, it is veryrevealing (at least to me) what is being written here by certain members, for even I am capable (for the most part) of connecting the dots and seeing what is ultimately being said (that is, um, the bigger picture).


That's all for now. My apologies for rambling(on).
Bravo!!! Thank you Nicomacheus!
- November 13th, 2008, 06:57 am
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I have a hard time dating men who are this age or older and have never lived with another person, been in a committed relationship that lasted longer than a couple of years, or been married.


I feel like maybe I am not giving them much of a chance, but there is something in me that screams, "RUN! He has no idea how to do the relationship thing!"


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Thats an easy one! Men are refusing to marry in record numbers because the word is out that they are routinely raped in divorce court. They are routinely deprived of house, car, kids, etc. All a woman need do is falsely accuse a man of "abuse" (which can include scowling) to have thrown out of the home without due process of law. You can thank Jospeh Biden, the vice-president-elect for this fraud which he callled the Villence Against Women Act. Hope this helps!
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