Lucid is offline Lucid Post #1  January 8,2012, 4:16pm
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This is just a companion thread to the "WHY DO GUYS?" thread.

So can anyone explain to me why women never say what they're really thinking and expect us as men to read minds when we are hardly even out of the stoneage ourselves.

And please, once this particular question has been answered, not that women will ever say, please feel free to ask your own "Why don't women?!" question.

Have fun with this, its just a B.S topic to throw around with speculation.
 
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Lucid wrote :
This is just a companion thread to the "WHY DO GUYS?" thread.

So can anyone explain to me why women never say what they're really thinking and expect us as men to read minds when we are hardly even out of the stoneage ourselves.

And please, once this particular question has been answered, not that women will ever say, please feel free to ask your own "Why don't women?!" question.

Have fun with this, its just a B.S topic to throw around with speculation.
Yeah Lucid, that mind-reader thing is a classic, isn't it? Not only do they frequently seem to think we should "just know" something, they also seem to frequently think that they do.

Been burned by this recently, and I'm not sure what the solution is, because in that case I was convinced that we were able to talk about anything --- and then it turned out there was something that she could not. It was sad, and there was one hell of a lot of emotional upset/trauma/drama that resulted from it.

Perhaps the lesson might be "If something doesn't make sense, then you need to dig relentlessly to find out what's really going on."

Perhaps the lesson is simply: "Don't expect them to make sense."

Women are complicated. Wheels within wheels within wheels. Very pretty wheels all, but we get complacent and forget their incredibly emotional nature at our peril.

I recently failed at all of these lessons, and it still hurts. Maybe someday I'll get it right. I can only keep trying, because for me -- it's the only game in town.

As my good friend Ray M. is fond of saying, "It's not what you know. It's what you can think of in time!"
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Men aren't mind readers?! Well . . . there's a mistake in the manual then.

For myself, I have, on occasion, been guilty of wanting a guy to "just know" something without me saying anything, but almost only ever when I'm in a foul mood and don't feel I should have to say anything. It's my own bad behavior more than anything else, to be perfectly honest. Most days, I grow up and get over myself. On rare occasions, however, it's a losing battle - and then when I do finally get my head on straight again, I'm ashamed of myself for being such a dope.
 
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Men aren't mind readers?! Well . . . there's a mistake in the manual then.

For myself, I have, on occasion, been guilty of wanting a guy to "just know" something without me saying anything, but almost only ever when I'm in a foul mood and don't feel I should have to say anything. It's my own bad behavior more than anything else, to be perfectly honest. Most days, I grow up and get over myself. On rare occasions, however, it's a losing battle - and then when I do finally get my head on straight again, I'm ashamed of myself for being such a dope.
What Lindseyk said!
 
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"Women are complicated. Wheels within wheels within wheels. Very pretty wheels all, but we get complacent and forget their incredibly emotional nature at our peril."

Not bad Psgcooldog, I couldn't have put it better myself.

A spirograph of lines created by circles over circles, laced and woven together in a thing of beauty, while men dance on the lines and try not to become entangled in the complicated web woven by the wheels of a womans mind.

I just can't comprehend how they expect us to keep up without a little communication so we can stop guessing at what exactly "The Look" means this time!
 
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lindseyk wrote :
Men aren't mind readers?! Well . . . there's a mistake in the manual then.

For myself, I have, on occasion, been guilty of wanting a guy to "just know" something without me saying anything, but almost only ever when I'm in a foul mood and don't feel I should have to say anything. It's my own bad behavior more than anything else, to be perfectly honest. Most days, I grow up and get over myself. On rare occasions, however, it's a losing battle - and then when I do finally get my head on straight again, I'm ashamed of myself for being such a dope.
Awwww ... Lindsey, do you have a sister, perhaps????
 
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Like lindsey, I have done this usually when I was angry.

However, I have tried as I have matured, to do this less, and actually try really hard to say what I'm thinking as tactfully as possible, because I don't like saying things that hurt to my mate.

I don't particularly like these threads because it's not supposed to be about stereotyping people. I'd like to believe that as we gain more experience with relationships and mature, we are better communicators and are less likely to lump men or women, or any other group of people (races, religions, etc.) in to categories. I find it only further serves to separate rather than to unite and understand each other.
 
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Like lindsey, I have done this usually when I was angry.

However, I have tried as I have matured, to do this less, and actually try really hard to say what I'm thinking as tactfully as possible, because I don't like saying things that hurt to my mate.

I don't particularly like these threads because it's not supposed to be about stereotyping people. I'd like to believe that as we gain more experience with relationships and mature, we are better communicators and are less likely to lump men or women, or any other group of people (races, religions, etc.) in to categories. I find it only further serves to separate rather than to unite and understand each other.
Tink,

Here's the problem: men just don't generally do this, so it's not a useful thing to ignore the reality of the situation.

Sorry, but that's the truth. There are many truths that are not comfortable to look at. This is just one of them.
 
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Me: What's wrong?

Her: Nothing.

Me: It seems like something is bothering you.

Her: Nothing.

Me: Seriously, what's wrong?

Her: Nothing.

Me: Okay, but I'm only going to ask one more time and then I'll never ask again... what's wrong?

Her: Nothing..................umm..............nothing. ................okay........
 
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psgcooldog wrote :
Tink,

Here's the problem: men just don't generally do this, so it's not a useful thing to ignore the reality of the situation.

Sorry, but that's the truth. There are many truths that are not comfortable to look at. This is just one of them.
Do what? You certainly don't mean that they don't group people and make generalized statements about them, do you? So you think women do, and men don't? This is why I don't like threads like this.

When are people going to learn that not all women or men act a certain way and we shouldn't make global assertions about anyone for any reason.
 
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