I met a guy in the Navy a month ago while on a training mission and he told me he has a great marriage to a woman he brought back home from when he was stationed in Asia. She has dinner ready for him when he gets home, he gets to throw his clothes on the bedroom floor and she picks them up and does all the laundry, does all the cleaning of course, and does pretty much whatever he tells her to do. In return, he lets her buy whatever she wants. He claims they are both happy. I think it's sad and feel really bad for her.
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You missed the point: I'm not calling her a maid/hooker, I'm saying that you are looking for a maid/hooker. She is living the way her culture dictates at this point in time, but it is not the way that this culture sees things. The women in this country expect an equal footing with men and will settle for nothing less. When you throw your filthy smelly socks on our floors you will find them right there the next day until you house train yourself. You state that she picks up after you - are you three years old? Pick up after yourself. I resent men that are so backwards that they insult American women for the gains in fairness and equal treatment that we have fought so hard for. I also feel sorry for this girl you have found.
I've given up on American woman and am in the process of bringing a woman from Thailand over here.Asian woman just know how to treat a man and they understand us
As an Asian woman I'm a bit amused by this post. Not only have I been in situations and conversations with men with similar ideas to yours, but I have discussed this with my Asian counterparts - men and women, as well as my non-Asian friends.
Yes, there are cultural differences between different countries (by no means am I saying she is going to treat her significant other poorly), but the fact that a woman is going to enslave herself to her S/O and please her S/O is largely a myth.
Everyone acts differently when they first meet someone, its trying to discern how subtle the differences are is what is key.
Throughout all of my educational pursuits I have primarily associated myself with Asian students. I'm extremely westernized, but it provides for immediate understanding of some cultural barriers from the get-go.
We would joke all the time about the idea that Asian women make better wives or girlfriends because of the stereotypes that exist about Asian women. It was hilarious. One conversation specifically we talked about how, in Asian cultures, discipline is issued physically, and we took turns joking about how we would be punished.
"Oh, you thought the ruler was bad? When I was ___ I did ____ , and my mom grabbed a ___."
"Well, this one time ____, a car bumper ____. My dad knew to be on his best behavior from then on."
Though they ARE stereotypes, there are reasons why stereotypes exist. I would definitely get to know her on a more personal level first. We might surprise you
Ep,I'm not alone in this.The number of men seeking foreign woman is skyrocketing.Please don't assume you know how my life will be with her.You don't know me.You are assuming that I'm looking for a house mouse.Nothing could be further from the truth.This could be the way of the future.
I met a guy in the Navy a month ago while on a training mission and he told me he has a great marriage to a woman he brought back home from when he was stationed in Asia. She has dinner ready for him when he gets home, he gets to throw his clothes on the bedroom floor and she picks them up and does all the laundry, does all the cleaning of course, and does pretty much whatever he tells her to do. In return, he lets her buy whatever she wants. He claims they are both happy. I think it's sad and feel really bad for her.
I would wager that, the more assimilated she becomes into Western culture, the more likely it is that this will change.
From what I've witnessed and heard, when/if she has opportunity to make closer friends and "get out of the house" she will slowly transition into a role that is more independent. I would also wager that he will dislike this.
KWM,
I am much encouraged by your post. I was hoping that women from all cultures would, upon arriving in this country, see that they had some options that would severely disappoint their American spouse.
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That is so racist, I don't know where to begin.
Always have to pull out the race card huh?How long are you going to milk that cow?
Interesting response. I believe the only difference between Frank's post and my post is that he directly described the undertones of your post while I gave you the benefit of the doubt and some food for thought.
Ep,I'm not alone in this.The number of men seeking foreign woman is skyrocketing.Please don't assume you know how my life will be with her.You don't know me.You are assuming that I'm looking for a house mouse.Nothing could be further from the truth.This could be the way of the future.
Perhaps you are not looking for this, though it seemed that you were looking for a subservient woman to care for you. It might be a wise idea to restate your desires more clearly, more equally, rather than declaring that Asian women know how to men and understand them. Intentional or not, that statement is reeking of gender and racial bias.
I really resent you referring to my future wife as a maid/ hooker.She is very respectable.Her father is a doctor.You sound like the typical American female that knows nothing about foreign cultures and customs.
There are lots of women that come from respectable families with parents with high-earning careers. That doesn't necessarily mean that they are respectable women.
Likewise, there are lots of men that come from respectable families with parents with high-earning careers, that doesn't mean they are respectable men.
NOTE: I am not referring to your future spouse being unworthy of respect. I am simply saying that parents' occupation cannot and dictate their child's future, it can only facilitate certain opportunities and character traits and the likelihood and ability of their child to have access to or possess them.
I generally assume that guys who look to Thailand or other Asian countries for brides are just short and are having a hard time meeting a great woman of their preferred stature. That makes the most sense to me.
The couple men I've actually heard say the bit about some sort of natural feminine domesticity were both old and ex military.
Taking exception with someone finding a spouse from another country is the real racism. Only in the US and the UK are things so twisted from truth.
szgorzelski wrote something about a supposed buddy of his that found a wife who picks up after him and somehow some of the other posters here attributed these remarks to dude1980ish. more twisting of the facts.
IMNSHO, US women are trying to be men and are trying to turn men into women. The men who choose to remain men are then vilified. The women who choose to remain women are ostracized. This is a perverse generation.
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