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Odira is offline Odira Post #81  June 15,2011, 10:14am
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Franklin551 wrote :
I never said I wanted a ghetto woman. The topic was about how society sees non-ghetto black men as weak men regardless of their lifestyle. I have lost count of how many punk rock black students on campus are accepted by other women and always rejected by black women as these women see these men as sell-outs.
Think on the positive side Franklin - at least you're not short

(No flames please - I was making a joke and have no personal height-challenged bias)
 
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Dateless people on this forum have been treated with great bias. After reading numberous topics made by different members, I see a pattern. Regardless of each dateless person's situation they receive very bias remarks.

Dateless people on this site are told they have issues that require therapy. They are often told they are disrespectful and uncaring people. What does being dateless have to do with being disrespectful and uncaring? Anyone who is in a relationship can have these same needs and qualities.

Dateless people are labeled as unhappy people. In my life I have met plenty of happy dateless people. They may not be happy about their situation, but they can still be happy about other areas in their life.

The sadness labeled of all is that dateless people have no self-respect nor self-esteem. Dateless people can still love and value themselves. Most dateless people I personality know take very good care of themselves.

If a dateless member says "a few women called me ugly". The members will tell the dateless person that he needs more self-respect as if the dateless person called him or herself ugly when in fact someone else did. It makes NO logical sense. If I called someone ugly then that person has self-esteem person?

There are plenty of people who are in relationships have problems of self-esteem, self-respect, and other problems. People who are in a relationships seek therapy. It does matter if a person is in a relationship or is dateless, he or she may not have these any of these problems.

Some members on this forum have shown ignorance beyond any level I have seen before. I hope staff considers handling this childish problem. Dateless people are not receiving useful feedback. It's near the point of these comments being personal attacks.
I did not read all the posts here. I have read many of the other ones, and have not commented in any of them, I don't think.

Franklin,

You seem very upset with the people here, yet over and over you ask very similar questions. Many people come with advice or ideas and you poo poo almost all of them. I have seen TONS of useful feedback given to you.

My opinion is that you look fine. Not knock it out of the park hot, but fine. Most likely you need some life experience. Many people are not successful dating at your age. I know I was not until about 21. I looked really young and I was short. Many girls found me cute.......you probably have some idea of how well that worked out for me in my teenage years.

So, what do you do. Number 1 --- Stop stressing about it. Don't make it a HUGE priority in your life. Number 2 --- don't worry about things you cannot change or people who do not find you attractive.

My guess is that you come off too strong and look desperate. I do not know that as a fact, but it seems to fit with everything I have seen about your communication style. Back off a little, don't be too aggressive.

Also, learn to appreciate people who are taking time to try to help you. You may not agree, but whatever. They took time out of their life to try to help you, at your request. Saying thank you instead of blabbing off over and over about disrespect and no helpful advice will not likely give you what you want.

Also I am not saying you are but make sure you are never this guy:

You: Hi, would you like to go out Saturday?
Her: No thank you.
You: Why, what is wrong with me, I am a nice guy, I am the president of a university organization. Girls always want bad boys, what is so bad about me? Is it my ears? Is it the gap in my teeth? What it is, huh? huh? huh? Wait, come back, I want to know why you don't find me attractive.
 
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I did not read all the posts here. I have read many of the other ones, and have not commented in any of them, I don't think.

Franklin,

You seem very upset with the people here, yet over and over you ask very similar questions. Many people come with advice or ideas and you poo poo almost all of them. I have seen TONS of useful feedback given to you.

My opinion is that you look fine. Not knock it out of the park hot, but fine. Most likely you need some life experience. Many people are not successful dating at your age. I know I was not until about 21. I looked really young and I was short. Many girls found me cute.......you probably have some idea of how well that worked out for me in my teenage years.

So, what do you do. Number 1 --- Stop stressing about it. Don't make it a HUGE priority in your life. Number 2 --- don't worry about things you cannot change or people who do not find you attractive.

My guess is that you come off too strong and look desperate. I do not know that as a fact, but it seems to fit with everything I have seen about your communication style. Back off a little, don't be too aggressive.

Also, learn to appreciate people who are taking time to try to help you. You may not agree, but whatever. They took time out of their life to try to help you, at your request. Saying thank you instead of blabbing off over and over about disrespect and no helpful advice will not likely give you what you want.

Also I am not saying you are but make sure you are never this guy:

You: Hi, would you like to go out Saturday?
Her: No thank you.
You: Why, what is wrong with me, I am a nice guy, I am the president of a university organization. Girls always want bad boys, what is so bad about me? Is it my ears? Is it the gap in my teeth? What it is, huh? huh? huh? Wait, come back, I want to know why you don't find me attractive.
You're right regardless that I disagree with the advice, I should at least thank the members.

Thanks to everyone who has taken their time to give me advice. Thanks.

I don't strongly come on to women. I simply ask them out. When they say no, I walk away.

I've never asked a woman why she rejected me.
 
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Oh, great. Therapy actually would help here.
Best post in the thread.
 
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