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"If you work hard enough or try hard enough you can do anything you want to..." And if you fail, well, you are just not trying hard enough or are a bad person.
That is the American work ethic. In the great majority of cases it holds true based on history.

The opportunity is definitely there, one just needs to make use of it.

Also, there is nothing wrong with failing. It is not bouncing back after failure, and trying again is what hurts people.

Heck, Trump companies have declared bankruptcy four times that I know of.
 
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WHo ever suggested that anyone work out 20 hoours per week. Any amount of time that you spend working out past an hour to an hour and a half is a complete waste of time and increases the chance of injury. The average person stops producing human growth hormone after an hour to an hour and a half workout. Anything more than that is completely wasted time. You also need at least one day of rest or just stretching per week. The ideal workout schedule should never excede about 9 hours per week max.
You may have a point...I used to be a work-out junkie and runner. I mean literally working out in the gym in the morning and jogging in the evening after work. That 'runner's high' was hard to beat for an endorphin fix...I had no idea as to the amount of damage I was doing to my knees and ankles until I had to see a sports injury doctor. Now I hate working out because I can only do weights and low-impact cardio...I tried powerwalking but it bores me (no 'high' in it I guess).But I think I am mentally healthier, even though I do not keep off the weight as easily when I could jog and do the high impact stuff. So, now I am trying pilates and bought a Wii...still bored but keeping my weight at a reasonable level so I guess it all pays off.Just wish I could jog again and always get upset when I see a jogger these days...*sigh*
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Xable wrote :
Making fun of people is a form of putting down people.

Everyone has a right to complain about whatever they want to complain about. It's been my experience that American's have a bloated sense of what they can and cannot control in their lives.

"If you work hard enough or try hard enough you can do anything you want to..." And if you fail, well, you are just not trying hard enough or are a bad person.
True that.
 
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But isn't that what everyone does? Those who work out 10+ hours a week and forgo that dessert put down those who are overweight by calling them lazy and undisciplined.

I have periods when I go a bit OTT with my fitness regimen, maybe doing a competition, or just feeling like being a bit hardcore, and I get so much slack for it, people griping on about how boring my food is, or how I look "dont you think your arms are a bit manly?" , "you are so vain" that kind of thing.
I would never go up to a fat person and say "hey put that burger down" or "you're looking a bit chubby there".
All I'm saying is, people seem to think it is ok to write someone off as a 'bad' person (vain, shallow, or the b-word).

Appearance changes when you dont meet people straight up, then we get to know someone differently, and just see photos from angles we have chosen to show...

In the end of the day, you want to be a positive experience when someone first meets you. I'd rather someone thought "woh, he/she's better IRL" than a big fat disappointment.
 
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But isn't that what everyone does? Those who work out 10+ hours a week and forgo that dessert put down those who are overweight by calling them lazy and undisciplined.
I've been overweight after my pregnancies and had to work very hard to get the weight off. Sometimes it took up to a year to get back to my pre-pregnancy weight. It was rough. I'm also experiencing pre-menopause weight gain and have to work extra hard to keep my weight at a reasonable, manageable healthy range. It is a constant struggle at my age, but I am determined that with due diligence I can keep my weight in a normal range for my height. With that said, I have never/would never put down or make fun of people who are obese or more then 25 pounds overweight because I understand that so many variables go into weight. However, I have had comments from women (and surprisingly sometimes from men) who are not as weight conscious, who can't understand why I spend the amount of time working out and why I don't gorge on foods high in fat and sugar...and I really get tired of explaining my preference for gluten-free foods (which has nothing to do with weight, it is a just a health choice). Sometimes folks who are not weight conscious make fun of some of us who are, and brand us as 'health-fanatics'...it can swing both ways in my personal experience....just a thought.
 
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tangochef wrote :
Curious about something, here is a hypothetical.

Recently we had conversations about guys lying about their height, men/women lying about their age, marital status etc.

People were negative about those actions, rightly so.

So, you get a match, like the pictures, communicate and like that, and finally go on a date, and continue on from there.

Eventually, you are about to become intimate.

She takes off the Spanx, and the rolls of fat come and hit you in the face

Would you consider this lying?
...and to get back on the topic of enhancers women use (spanx, nails, hair extensions, make-up, etc)I see your point, but I think as other posters have stated, an overweight women in spanx still is not going to look anywhere near a perfect BMI. I can tell if a woman is wearing a body enhancer like pads for the derriere and spanx, but I can see how men may be a bit confused, and dismayed, when as you say "intimacy" is introduced and the push-up bra is a lie...the spanx is a lie...the derriere pads are a lie...you can't touch her hair because she has extensions or hair enhancers...the eventual shrill scream when she wakes up in the morning and a $60 pink and white nail job shows a cracked nail on a finger...or you turn over in the morning after all the make-up is gone, take one look at her face without make-up, and you want to run for your life to get as far away from her as you can. But it is odd that some men complain about enhancers and yet tend to gravitate to what they deem the 'well-put-together' woman who has the push-up bra, fake body parts, and loads of make-up. It sounds like you prefer your women more natural and wholesome looking. In that case, there are loads of women like that, especially as you choose women who do not live in large urban cities ,like the midwest (not saying there are not natural women living in large urban cities but my opinion may be a bit skewed because I live in NYC). I don't know where you live or your dating range on dating sites, but I'm sure that if you look at dating on a more regional scale, you may be suuccessful in garnering women who are a better fit for your likes/needs. Happy Hunting!...*smile*
 
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... Sometimes folks who are not weight conscious make fun of some of us who are, and brand us as 'health-fanatics'...it can swing both ways in my personal experience....just a thought.
Just the other day I went to lunch with a couple of friends. They ordered for me as follows without giving me a chance:
"He'll have the flat iron steak and fries, steak medium rare, substitute steamed spinach for the sautéed vegatables, and sliced tomatoes for the fries. Pellegrino with a slice of lemon."

Followed by laughs.

I get a lot of "When Harry met Sally" comments.
 
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Just the other day I went to lunch with a couple of friends. They ordered for me as follows without giving me a chance:
"He'll have the flat iron steak and fries, steak medium rare, substitute steamed spinach for the sautéed vegatables, and sliced tomatoes for the fries. Pellegrino with a slice of lemon."

Followed by laughs.

I get a lot of "When Harry met Sally" comments.
This made me smile...in my dating travels I have had men by the third date order for me saying, "Come on...just try the Belgian waffles with whipped cream", or "She'll have the....". Not to mention my friends who are always chiding me to "eat up" when we go out to lunch or dinner. Sometimes I give in and then want to kick myself later...and sometimes it just makes me angry. Not to mention men who say in their profiles they have an active lifestyle, but then complain that I spend too much time working out when I could be spending time with them. It's not easy for me at this age to stay within a reasonable weight and I still consider myself at least 20 pounds overweight, so nowadays I try to meet men who are as health concious as I am...and mean it. (besides, I should be a "cheap date" because my first choice for dates is not a restaurant but something more active, and when a restaurant is the date, I rarely like most of what is on the menu and do not order the high calorie/high priced fare...go figure!...lol)
 
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tangochef wrote :
Just the other day I went to lunch with a couple of friends. They ordered for me as follows without giving me a chance:
"He'll have the flat iron steak and fries, steak medium rare, substitute steamed spinach for the sautéed vegatables, and sliced tomatoes for the fries. Pellegrino with a slice of lemon."

Followed by laughs.

I get a lot of "When Harry met Sally" comments.
The big question, Tango, is whether there's a woman a few booths away, saying, "I'll have what he's having."
 
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