Although many degreed people are not intelligent (most aren't, by my definition), my experience is that almost all intelligent people are educated.
You are correct, many degreed people are not intelligent, but then you state almost all intelligent people are educated. While I understand exactly what you mean by this, and somewhat agree to a point..... it is still a blanket statement stating that in order to be considered intelligent you must be educated (and to most people this means having a college degree)
This, like so much, is influenced by the fact that in the communities in which I have lived, at my age, most people enter (and complete) university immediately out of high school, so the peer group is not really did they go to college, but which school, what subjects, and are they close to the top of their class? Looking for partners with a degree is like looking for a car with four wheels full of air.
So once again, we revert back to the college degree in order for you to consider someone a suitable partner, (which is your preference) even though you have already stated and concluded that"many degreed people are not intelligent (most aren't, by my definition)"
For young people today, a college education is a minimum to get an interview for even clerical, entry level jobs in corporations and government. This brings us to the other reason I screen on education: I need my matches to have the quality of life and future that I do.
I am making the assumption that you mean a person's petential for income when you state your "matches to have the quality of life and future that I do"....while it is true that many people who have a college degree make more money than someone who does not have one, this is not a steadfast rule in today's society. I personally know many people without a college degree who are considered wealthy, as well as many people with college degrees who barely make ends meet.
Education, for many people, is not about fine art and literature, but to learn a trade (my degree in accounting is more akin to the education of a professional electrician, than it is to the classical intent of "education" as it once applied to the upper classes.)
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So, for me, a minimum of a four year degree is like being a non-smoker - essential, yet possed by virtually everybody anyway.
You state that education is about learning a trade, but a licensed electrician does not earn a four year college degree in order to become licensed, so if this kind of education were acceptable to you because they had a trade, then why is minimum four year degree essential for you? If that were the case, then you would screen potential matches on "job titles" or what they actually did for a living instead of basing it on a "must have four year degree"
Intelligent, curiosity, and engagement is also essential. This is far harder to find, as few people posses it.
Many people posses intelligence, curiosity, and engagement..maybe you find few people who posses these "desirable" traits, and maybe they are harder for you to find because you will only consider a potential partner who holds a minimum four year college degree?
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and preferences and we all have something valid to say based on our own life experiences......but the point of my original post concerning this was only to state that having a college degree does not always equal someone of higher intelligence
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In general, I would prefer my matches to have a college education. But I find their commitment to life long learning more important. I'll take a tradesman who reads literature, keeps up with current events & is interested in what makes things tick over a college grad who hasn't cracked a book since he got his diploma.
The educational preference is just that--a personal preference. It is not even a part of the 29 compatability dimensions. I was actually surprised by this. I always thought similar education and shared interests were a prime neccessity for a relationship to work. I do not get the reference that some one needs some sort of degree to hold up their end of the conversation!? Many great conversationalists have no formal degree and are quite bright with a lot to offer. You can be intelligent without a degree. In real life the successful couples I know actually have educational differences with one holding a higher degree and the other minimal to none at all. I, myself lowered my educational requirement b/c I realized I may be missing out on some VERY compatible matches.
Having a match who is compatible, and one who could compliment personal qualities, traits, and interests is essential. Also, someone who is interested in personal enrichment and ongoing self-education is a plus. However, selecting someone based upon the degrees they've earned reflects superficiality, hubris, and elitism.
I prefer to date educated men. I have a bachelor's. Men who are better educated than me are not in competition with me and are more relaxed and confident, which in turn relaxes me.
Anyone in a position to get to know me would have little clue or expectation of what I do everyday. I honestly don't fit what I do, however I enjoy it and it keeps my mind at peace. Everyone calls me a jack of all trades as I literally tend to get into anything. Information and knowledge and wisdom are a never ending target for me.
I've had girlfriends that were book smart, got their degree, and yet had no ability to think. No common sense. No awareness of the world around them. So, while a part of me wishes I had that degree, I am just as happily the person I am now as I could have been then.
In general, I would prefer my matches to have a college education. But I find their commitment to life long learning more important. I'll take a tradesman who reads literature, keeps up with current events & is interested in what makes things tick over a college grad who hasn't cracked a book since he got his diploma.
I agree with this. However, I find that most of my matches who are tradesmen are the type that have not cracked a book in 20 years, who don't care about current events - unless it's who won last Sunday on Nascar - or who are not really concerned about "how things tick" or what makes the world go 'round.
And, this is not just a generalization based on their job title. Usually they spell this right out on their profile. I just can't see what we would possibly have in common.
I agree with this. However, I find that most of my matches who are tradesmen are the type that have not cracked a book in 20 years, who don't care about current events - unless it's who won last Sunday on Nascar - or who are not really concerned about "how things tick" or what makes the world go 'round.
And, this is not just a generalization based on their job title. Usually they spell this right out on their profile. I just can't see what we would possibly have in common.
I see this with some of my matches too. Some seem to wear it almost as a badge of honor like, "I haven't read a book since I was forced to in high school. Hehehe!"
While I'm not an avid reader of books, I still see their attitude as a little bit immature.
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