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morningsunlight is offline morningsunlight Post #1  June 29,2010, 4:00am
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After a breakup, I just could not stop thinking about him and shared all of these with most of my male friends including new ones.

I now come to think that one friend, with whom I went out really lots of times last year, might have actually been good in a different way.

Most of my friends are males and I tend to be that close with many of them. So there was nothing special about going out with him a lot.

Indeed, I never saw a potential and never felt any romantic feelings with him at that time. All I could think of was my Ex and nobody had the qualities of my Ex.

The friend was a good listener because he was also getting over his ex-fiancee. So we shared a lot.

Recently, I have realized that I feel very comfortable with this person and that we share a lot in common. He has other good qualities that my Ex did not have. This is a new insight in my mind.

This friend went on a very long trip. So I thought that I wanted to meet him when he's back to see him from a different angle and see if I ever feel any chemistry.

He came back a few days ago. But I just saw his facebook status changing into "in a relationship." lol.

This surprised me a little because I heard him talk about his hurt feelings with his Ex just a month ago. I just felt the timing very funny and yet felt very happy for him. I knew how much he needed to heal and I am happy that he now moves on. I did not feel jealous or hurt at all. This was how we evolved as good, caring friends.

Yet, I also feel that I wasted the opportunity.....? If we did not talk about our Ex's and turned into self-help mates, could we have developed a different relationship?

Any thought?
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After a breakup, I just could not stop thinking about him and shared all of these with most of my male friends including new ones.

I now come to think that one friend, with whom I went out really lots of times last year, might have actually been good in a different way.

Most of my friends are males and I tend to be that close with many of them. So there was nothing special about going out with him a lot.

Indeed, I never saw a potential and never felt any romantic feelings with him at that time. All I could think of was my Ex and nobody had the qualities of my Ex.

The friend was a good listener because he was also getting over his ex-fiancee. So we shared a lot.

Recently, I have realized that I feel very comfortable with this person and that we share a lot in common. He has other good qualities that my Ex did not have. This is a new insight in my mind.

This friend went on a very long trip. So I thought that I wanted to meet him when he's back to see him from a different angle and see if I ever feel any chemistry.

He came back a few days ago. But I just saw his facebook status changing into "in a relationship."

This surprised me a little because I did not feel that he was ready to move on as I heard him talk about his hurt feelings with his Ex just a month ago. I did not feel jealous or hurt at all for his getting a new girlfriend. I just felt very happy for him. I knew how much he was hurt and needed to heal and I am happy that he now moves on. This was how we evolved as good, caring friends.

Yet, I also feel that I wasted the opportunity.....? If we did not talk about our Ex's and turned into self-help mates, could we have developed a different relationship?

Any thought?
During the time period which the two of you spent time together, you needed a friend, nothing more. At that time neither of you were ready do date so you provided each other a sounding board and comforted each other.

It is also sometimes difficult to transform from being just a friend to someones partner. It sounds that neither of you saw the potential at the time.

I don't think you missed an opportunity because neither of you were in a place to share more than friendship.
 
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Cape_Codder wrote :
During the time period which the two of you spent time together, you needed a friend, nothing more. At that time neither of you were ready do date so you provided each other a sounding board and comforted each other.

It is also sometimes difficult to transform from being just a friend to someones partner. It sounds that neither of you saw the potential at the time.

I don't think you missed an opportunity because neither of you were in a place to share more than friendship.
All good points.

I asked this because I read elsewhere that you should not talk about your Ex to opposite-sex friends. The reasoning behind it is that it could ruin any potentials that might grow when you are over your Ex.

Like you said, once you establish a friendship, it tends to remain a friendship forever. You would somehow try to start a romantic relationship with someone you barely know yet.

I myself barely turned friends into romantic ones. But I have come to wonder why I don't even try to consider that. I felt that it could be missed opportunities not to consider any potential with people with good trusting bonds.

With this person, this question occurred to me after the last meeting a month ago, when he randomly said, "It would be nice to be partnered with an intelligent woman like you."

I don't generally take any friendly-flirting seriously, and especially, this one sounded like a very random, passing thought directed at himself, rather than at me. So I just felt good for him that he could think of anything related to dating, rather than only about his Ex.

At the same time, I came to feel like, "Huh, that's an interesting idea. Why don't I even consider any potential in all these trusted friends that I have so much in common?"
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At the same time, I came to feel like, "Huh, that's an interesting idea. Why don't I even consider any potential in all these trusted friends that I have so much in common?"
That's a different question from your original posting, isn't it?

I had a male platonic friend I met in college; we were friends for 15 years or so (have lost track of him now). Sometimes I think I really missed an opportunity there. I never thought about him as a possible boyfriend ... or more accurately, sometimes the vague idea would flit into my head and then flit right out again.

So why don't you see potential in them?
 
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Sassafras54 wrote :
That's a different question from your original posting, isn't it?

I had a male platonic friend I met in college; we were friends for 15 years or so (have lost track of him now). Sometimes I think I really missed an opportunity there. I never thought about him as a possible boyfriend ... or more accurately, sometimes the vague idea would flit into my head and then flit right out again.

So why don't you see potential in them?
Great point. I do not quite know the answer.

The closest I could think of is an interesting theory about a cat-human relationship. A cat would see you sometimes as his mom and at other times you may be considered his lover, his friend, his housemate, and a total stranger. These just depend on his mood.

In opposite-sex friendships, there are certainly some moments when we randomly see them as men/women and flirt each other. But then we go back to our regular friendships.

I also have many friendships in which we constantly flirt. But these are meant to be friendly-flirty even more than the above cases.

A good thing about established friendship is that it's really stable and peaceful. The best male friend deeply cares about me. He moved many years ago, but we still make long-distance calls every two weeks. He says we'd enjoy our friendship for the rest of our life. I also deeply respect him and am always there for him. We may have such a great friendship because we never date. I find him cute and he also gives me lovely compliments. He wants to touch me when I dress nicely. But that's that. When I visited him last time, we slept in the same room for two nights and nothing happened. He's like a brother. We always share about our romances and give each other advice.
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First of...just because he says he is in a relationship on facebook doesnt mean he is. He may have said that to stop getting hit on through facebook.

I also believe there is a small window for a relationship to occur and if it doesnt happen you go into the friend zone.
 
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ami1uwant wrote :
I also believe there is a small window for a relationship to occur and if it doesnt happen you go into the friend zone.
That's very true.
 
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All good points.

I asked this because I read elsewhere that you should not talk about your Ex to opposite-sex friends. The reasoning behind it is that it could ruin any potentials that might grow when you are over your Ex.
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At the same time, I came to feel like, "Huh, that's an interesting idea. Why don't I even consider any potential in all these trusted friends that I have so much in common?"
You should not discuss your ex with your matches / dates. It is appropriate to discuss your ex with your opposite sex friends. This may well be a good idea as they may be able to offer a perspective on your failed relationship that your same sex friends cannot.

I suspect that you are looking for instant sparks as an indication that you should / can / want to build a romantic relationship with the person. With your opposite sex friends you did not feel instant sparks and gave them the opportunity to build and grow a friendship over a long time. (This all assumes that these friends are not people that you grew up with and have known since you were both small children)
 
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"He's like a brother" ... maybe that's it. Once you feel like brother-sister, no one wants to go from there to romance.

That might explain me and my college friend too. H'mmm.

It's different from "friend-zone". "Brother-zone".
 
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