Is NERD the new STUD? I say yes!


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Lostintranslation is offline Lostintranslation Post #81  March 27,2010, 4:20am
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Nerd is a term of abuse that people attach to those they fear may be more intelligent then they are, just like calling someone who is athletic a muscle head, or dumb jock. Name calling is a short cut to eleviatiating any anxiety you have about your own percieved short comings.
I can't say that I agree, Andrew. From an objective /and/ subjective standpoint, my experience counters what you say. Few have been the times that I have felt that there was anything negative about having the word nerd attached to me. In those instances, even though (perhaps) it was proffered as a negativity it was not experienced on my end as a negative. If someone fears me because I am smarter - then perhaps they will learn something from the experience. I am not really changed one way or the other by it. Everyone has skills and positive attributes - we all celebrate them in different ways.

Of course, in the adult world, words are experienced differently than those pre-adults most people call children. I've been a nerd from conception so I have 45 years experience. I do remember early feelings of being set apart when we were all trying to find our way - perhaps the word then was more negative than it is now - back then, when I had less power and less control and less knowledge. In the context of my adulthood, no so much.

p.s. I played D&D out of the box - fervently - so my nerd cred is solid.
 
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I can't say that I agree, Andrew. From an objective /and/ subjective standpoint, my experience counters what you say. Few have been the times that I have felt that there was anything negative about having the word nerd attached to me. In those instances, even though (perhaps) it was proffered as a negativity it was not experienced on my end as a negative. If someone fears me because I am smarter - then perhaps they will learn something from the experience. I am not really changed one way or the other by it. Everyone has skills and positive attributes - we all celebrate them in different ways.

Of course, in the adult world, words are experienced differently than those pre-adults most people call children. I've been a nerd from conception so I have 45 years experience. I do remember early feelings of being set apart when we were all trying to find our way - perhaps the word then was more negative than it is now - back then, when I had less power and less control and less knowledge. In the context of my adulthood, no so much.

p.s. I played D&D out of the box - fervently - so my nerd cred is solid.
That's fine, I don't require your agreement to have an opinion. In fact I quite enjoy a diversity of opinions. But which part don't you agree with exactly
a.) nerd is a term of abuse, or
b.) name calling is a way to make one feel better about themselves
 
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That's fine, I don't require your agreement to have an opinion. In fact I quite enjoy a diversity of opinions. But which part don't you agree with exactly
a.) nerd is a term of abuse, or
b.) name calling is a way to make one feel better about themselves
I agree that name calling is a way to make someone feel better about themselves.

I disagree that nerd is a term of abuse.

It's entirely possible that this involves naivete on my part in any situation, seeing it as more a term of affection.

And I can agree to disagree with anyone - and enjoy many different perspectives - so I hope to hear more from you if you care to share.
 
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Let's ask nerds themselves: are they feeling lucky recently?
As a male geek/nerd (the two terms are used almost interchangeably where I'm from) who has a thread on here that is pretty much the polar opposite of this one, I'd have to say Absolutely Not!

I'm 31, and I'm not sure I've ever yet in my life had a girl or woman so much as say hello to me without some ulterior motive, like wanting a copy of my homework, or wanting me to teach her something she couldn't figure out on her own, or fix something she broke. Women are only interested in us if we have something they want, and the minute they have it, we revert back to our status as virtual lepers.

If there is any truth to the idea that women are more open to dating nerdy men now (personally I think it's not really the case), then it is simply because they've realized that many of them have money, like some of the earlier posters said.

There are women who claim to like smart "nerdy" men. They are lying. What they really mean is that if they have a choice of a good-looking moron and a good-looking smart man, they'll pick the smart one. They will NOT pick a smart guy over a good looking one, and I have several years' worth of time sitting around by myself to prove it.
 
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Lostintranslation wrote :
I agree that name calling is a way to make someone feel better about themselves.

I disagree that nerd is a term of abuse.

It's entirely possible that this involves naivete on my part in any situation, seeing it as more a term of affection.

And I can agree to disagree with anyone - and enjoy many different perspectives - so I hope to hear more from you if you care to share.
It has been my experience that wearing glasses and/or getting good grades is all it takes for you to be a nerd. I enjoy math and science and have a fondness for technology, it just seems arbitrary to me this is what it means to be a nerd. No one ever makes a conscious decision to become a nerd, people decide for you and attach that label to you. I think this is why I bristle at the term.
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Totally agree with the assessments about NERDS. My SO is a nerd, and I am proud that he is. We take each other to new levels in conversation, and he is a very capable handyman. My kids love the fact that he seems to be able to interact with them on their level. He 's an intelligent, motivated, think on his feet and a discernable thinker, who also is into Video Games, Computers, and Dungeons and Dragons. Nerds don't discriminate against anyone, they don't know how. They take everyone for who they are and have a deep, thinking, sensitive side to them.

I just wish that there was some better niche to put them into, like intellectually inclined...
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As a nerd I say definitely no.

After 38 years of fighting the good fight in the dating scene and losing I have one thing to pass on:

Don't listen to what most women SAY they want.
What they really want is the complete opposite.

I've found that the reality is completely different from what they say.
They will say what they think society (and others) says they should say not what they truly believe.
 
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