She does not want to be with me because I'm "too nice".


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nightling is offline nightling Post #21  November 20,2009, 10:23am
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I think like some of the others have said that it might have been a nice way to turn down someone she didn't see long-term potential with, since you stated that's your goal. Be thankful she didn't waste more of your time.

I also agree with another poster that your statements as self-described make it seem like you're looking for just any old girl to fill that empty void at your side. I am sure it is not the case, but it does kind of make it seem like you haven't thought much about what qualities should be present in your ideal long-term partner.

Talking about those qualities on a first date seems too soon imo. It will make it seem too much like an interview date. Start out with some fun, see where it goes from there would be my take on it.

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Michael1974 wrote :
Hello all. I met a girl online and after talking for a few weeks, she asked what I want and I answered, "all I want is a single girl who's looking for a guy for a relationship" and I also said I do not want to get with a ton of women. She said that is too nice. Insane. How is that "too nice"? I'd think it is normal and practical.
You're right and she's an idiot for saying that. Keep doing what you are doing and eventually you will meet a mature women who knows the difference between being nice and being treated like trash.
 
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Alli824 wrote :
I don't think it's a question of too nice, but when a guy tells me "all I want is a single girl who's looking for a guy for a relationship" I'd be wary too. Sounds like he might settle for any woman that happens to be breathing. I'm just thinking from the female POV
Hearing his statement without any other defining context, it came across to me as a pretty decent thing to say - I pictured a straight-forward guy who's just telling it like it is. That he's out to settle for anything that breathes never occurred to me when I read it.
 
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sqg123 wrote :
No that is not why she does not want to be with you. Its code for I don't want to be with you and I don't want to hurt your feeling by telling you the real reason so I'll phrase it as a complimentary turndown. Other versions: you can find someone better for you, its not you its me...
That is likely it. I usually do leave a parting e-mail message and I should start adding that ... "am I too nice or is it that you just do not want to be with me?". Some do have an issue with nice or good men. Female psychologists pull their hair out over women like this.
 
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If some guy told me he was constantly surrounded by women, but was open to meeting yet another one, I would be completely turned off. If he couldn't handle all those women around him already, what would he need me for? I'm not looking to be one of many. (That would be my first thought, anyway). I don't think a man who says he's looking for someone single is bad. Why lie about it? I was single and looking for a relationship once upon a time. I may not have come right out and said I was looking for a relationship, but I didn't do anything to disguise the fact either. I also didn't pretend to be overwhelmed by all the men chasing after me. Men weren't chasing after me, so that would have been a great big lie and not the best foundation for an eventual relationship, in my opinion.

To the OP, I feel your pain. I was single for a long time too and began to wonder if there would ever be anybody for me. It was really hard sometimes and I also got told that I was too nice, too sweet, too innocent . . . blah, blah, blah. I even had one guy tell me I was truly an angel and therefore he couldn't sully me by dating me. What?! lol Luckily for me, my fiance, who I met earlier this year, thinks that I am so nice, so sweet, and so innocent that he can't NOT marry me! Hooray! It was a long, difficult wait, but so worth it in the end. My fiance is everything I ever wanted and more. He's not perfect and neither am I, but what we have works for us. That perfect girl for you is out there somewhere. It may take some time to find her, but I bet when you do, she'll appreciate everything about you and will be completely honoured that you chose her.

Don't put too much stock in comments that you are deceitful, dull, or whatever. Those are hurtful words and they won't do anything to help you. I remember you from another thread and you don't come across as deceitful or anything like that. I think you are honest about what you want in life and in a relationship and there's nothing wrong with that. What I do know is that it will take a very special lady to recognize the value in you - and that's not a bad thing at all!
Thank you. I would think that indicating I am looking for a relationship with a single woman is standard and commonplace in personal ads. I have no idea how "too nice" even gets involved. If none of us are supposed to be single and looking for other singles, how are our ads supposed to be ... "Hi, I have a g/f and I am looking for a woman who already has a b/f."? How absurd is that? Plus, why are people on online dating sites if they are not looking for relationships? I'd think each and every one of us are seeking that.
 
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Alli824 wrote :
I don't think it's a question of too nice, but when a guy tells me "all I want is a single girl who's looking for a guy for a relationship" I'd be wary too. Sounds like he might settle for any woman that happens to be breathing. I'm just thinking from the female POV - not that I'm condoning a long laundry list of requirements, but we all have something that sparks us and makes us want to take things to another level. Next time maybe you could couch it differently .. e.g. I would like to find someone I'm compatible with on a number of different levels.

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a match that's into sports with an incredible sense of humor. Stay away from the generic responses, makes you sound like you're willing to settle for anything coming your way. Just my opinion, and based on your pic you can be selective.
Looking at ads is the same as looking at a piece of art. Suppose you are in a museum looking at a Picasso. You may interpret the painting one way while the next person may interpret it another way.

When I claim to be looking for someone, that "someone" is not just anyone, but the one, the one special person I want to spend my life with after dating and getting to know each other and deciding we are right for each other. I would think people understand that is already implicit in that. From now on, I am going to have to rephrase ads similar to the way you presented in your example. The only problem though is that if I say I am into lifting weights or honoring our Veterans by going to historic reenactments or going to concerts, if a girl is not into any of that, she will not even bother to respond to my ad, but all of the above has nothing to do with a potential partner. These are my interests and pastimes and none of them are requirements for a partner.

People have to realize that being open-minded is not tantamount to settling for anyone. I have varied interests so I can get along with just about anyone, but yes, the spark has to be there. The only way the spark can exist is when people go beyond that initial ad or e-mail message. I would think anyone reading that would say, "duh".
 
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nightling wrote :
I think like some of the others have said that it might have been a nice way to turn down someone she didn't see long-term potential with, since you stated that's your goal. Be thankful she didn't waste more of your time.

I also agree with another poster that your statements as self-described make it seem like you're looking for just any old girl to fill that empty void at your side. I am sure it is not the case, but it does kind of make it seem like you haven't thought much about what qualities should be present in your ideal long-term partner.

Talking about those qualities on a first date seems too soon imo. It will make it seem too much like an interview date. Start out with some fun, see where it goes from there would be my take on it.

Good luck.
Hopefully from now on, people will be honest with each other and not say the too nice jazz. As a matter of fact, back in 2007 I did press someone to tell me the truth as to why she didn't want to be with me and she did the same routine as everyone else. These are the people who need to be honest. You're right - she is out of my life and it is for the better. I never discussed any of that stuff on a first date ... she just asked me a question based on my personal ad. My first dates are always very chilled out, relaxed and only fun topics are discussed. Nothing intense at all. As for qualities, it would be redundant to say ... I am looking for what each and every one of us is looking for. People may take issue with my statement, but when it is all said and done, it is true. All of us are looking for a partner to spend our lives with. I know there are some people who say they only want a partner who is into Metal or Country or Punk or Hip Hop, but I'm going to place such a requirement on someone.
 
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claire09 wrote :
You're right and she's an idiot for saying that. Keep doing what you are doing and eventually you will meet a mature women who knows the difference between being nice and being treated like trash.
Thank you. That's exactly it. It just shows that all of us want the same in life ... we just take different paths to get there. I could never even imagine myself treating a woman like trash. It's just not me.
 
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Kinjia wrote :
Hearing his statement without any other defining context, it came across to me as a pretty decent thing to say - I pictured a straight-forward guy who's just telling it like it is. That he's out to settle for anything that breathes never occurred to me when I read it.
Yes. In my own mind, when I stated my intention, I knew it would have to be with someone I click with and have feelings for. I have been hearing complaints (reasonable complaints) from women for years now ... they say they are sick of meeting guys who just want to hook up and do not want serious committed relationships. Now that a guy shows up to say that he genuinely wants a relationship, people claim he is just settling for anyone. It's as if women dream of finding guys who have a desire to be faithful to one partner, but then when a guy like that shows up, it's a different story.
 
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I'm agreeing with what others are saying ...

"all I want is a single girl who's looking for a guy for a relationship" = too passive/nice.

Chances are, she probably was just letting you down 'easy' ..."your a nice guy, but ...", etc. You have the long hair, so maybe they are looking for 'bad boys' - who knows? I stopped trying to figure women out in the 2nd grade. By asking the question at all, she was probably looking for a way to remove herself from your radar by finding something you 'want' that she doesn't have.

Next time, you should have a better answer, though ...here's a thought ...

Her: "What do you want in a woman?"
You: "Oh, I'll know it when I see it"
You: *look directly in her eyes and smile*

Be coy, be flirty, don't let her get the upper hand with these kinds of questions ...she needs to know that she has to work for you, just as much as you have to work for her.
 
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