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I've removed a couple of posts...

Let's please keep the focus on the topic and the content of the posts, and not on the personal characteristics of any particular poster.

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neardc wrote :
I've removed a couple of posts...

Let's please keep the focus on the topic and the content of the posts, and not on the personal characteristics of any particular poster.

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D_Lion wrote :
Fine personal opinion, but there is not the means!That is an absolute. Household loses income equals less money!
And those of us here who chose to have children were aware of that fact when making that choice. It was never an issue. We made a choice between having greater material benefits or having the benefits of having a child which cannot be quantified.

I am just not getting why you are so upset over this. You have made the choice not to have children so child support will never be an issue with you.
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I've often thought of D as Spock. But since he's experiencing Pon farr ... I really think we should ignore him until he gets ... um ...

What ever ... he ... um ... needs.
Why do people make me laugh when I am in front of a computer. Meh, monitors are easier to clean than laptop keys.

To the Frog, do you actually see yourself even being attracted to a woman who is unable to support herself? That really is the point of all this. The horror stories everyone quotes are about women who either can't or choose not to support themselves. Yes these women can use their children for profit. Again can you see yourself being attracted to a woman like this? They are easy to spot even if you do buy them a drink. They derive their self worth from their possessions. They consider their children to be possessions and if you were foolish enough to marry one you would become their possession. I know because there are men out there like this, I was married to one. In my defense I was 19 and very damaged.

Something you should consider about children, all the love you give them they give back with interest. I would not be healthy now but for my children. My life is perfect because we love each other unconditionally. I would move mountains for them and when I am hurting they are moving the mountains for me. Never out of duty or obligation but out of love.
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I learrned early on in life that no one was going to take care of me. I used the resources around me to get by. when my duaghter came along I went for help and that's all I could do. I took time to better myself for my daughter and me. I think we are doing alright. I never expected my Exes to be respossible for me. People are going to think what they want, you can only change how they think about you. Good luck woman.
 
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Why do people make me laugh when I am in front of a computer. Meh, monitors are easier to clean than laptop keys.

To the Frog, do you actually see yourself even being attracted to a woman who is unable to support herself? That really is the point of all this. The horror stories everyone quotes are about women who either can't or choose not to support themselves. Yes these women can use their children for profit. Again can you see yourself being attracted to a woman like this? They are easy to spot even if you do buy them a drink. They derive their self worth from their possessions. They consider their children to be possessions and if you were foolish enough to marry one you would become their possession. I know because there are men out there like this, I was married to one. In my defense I was 19 and very damaged.

Something you should consider about children, all the love you give them they give back with interest. I would not be healthy now but for my children. My life is perfect because we love each other unconditionally. I would move mountains for them and when I am hurting they are moving the mountains for me. Never out of duty or obligation but out of love.

I married a woman who could take care of herself. After a few years, she'd had enough of me.

I'm intolerable, see.

I got 50:50 custody, but her job didn't prevent her from getting CS in the calculations.

In some ways, marrying a SAHM, or even better, a woman who is an unfit mother, is in the man's favor.

After a few years, when she gets enough of me and decides to leave, I'll have a pretty easy time suing for full custody.

Then I'll have my kids and my income protected.

Also, I'll get a prenup. Yeah. You bet your tiny tight perky pinchable arse I'll get a prenup.


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You can't look at it that way either. Things happen that you can't control. She might be putting up a front and then booooooooom make you respossible for her in ever way. You really never know what a person will do, you have to be on guard all the time.

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Agree with Doug. It is so bad it is reason not to have children (I probably would marry, but only to a woman of comparable resources.)

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To your question, I tend not to make assumptions at all - I check the way the women act, limit my exposure, and don't proceed in the face of unreciprocated interest.
 
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Toooooooooooo Fuuuuuuuuny. You go dude


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I married a woman who could take care of herself. After a few years, she'd had enough of me.

I'm intolerable, see.

I got 50:50 custody, but her job didn't prevent her from getting CS in the calculations.

In some ways, marrying a SAHM, or even better, a woman who is an unfit mother, is in the man's favor.

After a few years, when she gets enough of me and decides to leave, I'll have a pretty easy time suing for full custody.

Then I'll have my kids and my income protected.

Also, I'll get a prenup. Yeah. You bet your tiny tight perky pinchable arse I'll get a prenup.


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saulgoode wrote :
I married a woman who could take care of herself. After a few years, she'd had enough of me.

I'm intolerable, see.

I got 50:50 custody, but her job didn't prevent her from getting CS in the calculations.

In some ways, marrying a SAHM, or even better, a woman who is an unfit mother, is in the man's favor.

After a few years, when she gets enough of me and decides to leave, I'll have a pretty easy time suing for full custody.

Then I'll have my kids and my income protected.

Also, I'll get a prenup. Yeah. You bet your tiny tight perky pinchable arse I'll get a prenup.


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I have all my assets in a trust for my kids. I don't understand the wording but it basically keeps my assets for my kids. I believe income during a marriage should be jointly shared. That does not mean income after the marriage should be jointly shared. I can't fathom why women get spousal support when there are no children involved. Well not true I could see it in a few situations but not a younger healthy able women. Work for petes sake it is not as bad as the soap operas make it sound.

So as I re-read that paragraph I can now see how a prenup might be in order if there is a large difference in income. You know what, it seems to me every situation has an exception, no wonder all this is a mess.
 
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Aren't we all slaves to a point. You can't just get public assistants either. You would have to pay that money back tooooooooo. I went on it when my daughter was little, so we could live and they now go after the dad for repayment because I had to raise my daughter. I pay society back by having a better life now, and I pay my taxes boy!!!!!!!! do I pay my taxes. Life has it's up and downs and all of us just need to take part in it.

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If I were him, I would quit my job and go on public assistance. The courts can take my income but they can't force me to work. $2100 out of $2800 means your friend is nothing more than a slave.

In the case of my old classmate paying alimony to her ex-husband, he lost his job then petitioned the court for alimony from her.
 
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