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grlnxtdr is offline grlnxtdr Post #141  November 23,2009, 5:52pm
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ming_on_mongo wrote :
Well, I do agree with the part about "they're waiting 'til we show up".

I think you'd be hard pressed to find many guys who'd complain about a woman taking a bit of initiative and indicating that they're interested in them.

Yet despite alot of lip service paid to the idea of being a "strong and independent woman", you'll notice (at least around these forums), that most women are still basically waiting around for the guy to "take the initiative", or "make the the first move". Oh, and naturally it has to be just "the right guy", to boot!
I have asked out guys before, probably hundreds...unfortunatly the guys haven't caught up with the independent female movement and get the wrong idea, like I just want to sleep with them. It scares guys off too much if I take intiative. The guys I have dealt with can't handle it. With the switching of the roles every things gets confused. I can call a guy, ask him out and so on and so forth, but for some reason the guy thinks that I am smitten and he can sit back on his arse and do nothing, and put forth no effort. So until guys truly want an independant girl, I will have to play the old fashioned role and wait for him to pursue me.
I am not so sure that you guys really want an independent girl, I think you just want one that doesn't cramp your style. An independent girl will tell it like it is and doesn't give a hoot if it hurts your feelings.
So, what most men really want when they say they want an independent girl,,,is a girl that still lets them do whatever they want and did before they were in a relationship. A truly independant girl won't put up with any BS, and will kick you to the curb before the car even stops rolling.
I welcome any guy that is really up to the challenge of an independent girl, You gotta be on your best behavior,,,you just might find yourself locked outa your house on a cold rainy night if you piss her off, cuz she doesn't need you, she choose you and she can unchoose you.
 
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bigfincat is offline bigfincat Post #143  November 23,2009, 9:30pm
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chawks64 wrote :
I'm dating a man I met at work right now. When I first started with the company, we were flirting back and forth for a few weeks, and then I asked him out. He turned me down.

Fast forward 2 years, and he asked me out. He just wasn't comfortable having a relationship with someone that he has also worked with. Until now. Even so, we're keeping things fairly quiet, though a few people there know.

And I've actually been the one accused of sexual harassment in the past. It's not just a problem for men. It was a false charge, but I can tell you it is one of very few charges they can make where you are presumed guilty until proven innocent. Almost impossible to disprove. Eventually it was proven to be a lie, but it's still in my employee file, and I've never gotten so much as an apology.

Oh, and do you have to actually make Good Money to be considered an independent woman? Or can you still be one if you barely make enough to live on but don't expect anyone to bail you out?
Good clarification that I can agree with.

Taking care & surviving is also independence.
 
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grlnxtdr wrote :
I have asked out guys before, probably hundreds...unfortunatly the guys haven't caught up with the independent female movement and get the wrong idea, like I just want to sleep with them. It scares guys off too much if I take intiative. The guys I have dealt with can't handle it. With the switching of the roles every things gets confused. I can call a guy, ask him out and so on and so forth, but for some reason the guy thinks that I am smitten and he can sit back on his arse and do nothing, and put forth no effort. So until guys truly want an independant girl, I will have to play the old fashioned role and wait for him to pursue me.
I am not so sure that you guys really want an independent girl, I think you just want one that doesn't cramp your style. An independent girl will tell it like it is and doesn't give a hoot if it hurts your feelings.
So, what most men really want when they say they want an independent girl,,,is a girl that still lets them do whatever they want and did before they were in a relationship. A truly independant girl won't put up with any BS, and will kick you to the curb before the car even stops rolling.
I welcome any guy that is really up to the challenge of an independent girl, You gotta be on your best behavior,,,you just might find yourself locked outa your house on a cold rainy night if you piss her off, cuz she doesn't need you, she choose you and she can unchoose you.
I get the impression of moody rather than independent.
 
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scarlet13 wrote :

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Seconds this.
 
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Jacquesne is offline Jacquesne Post #147  November 29,2009, 5:46pm
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grlnxtdr wrote :
I have asked out guys before, probably hundreds...unfortunatly the guys haven't caught up with the independent female movement and get the wrong idea, like I just want to sleep with them. It scares guys off too much if I take intiative. The guys I have dealt with can't handle it. With the switching of the roles every things gets confused. I can call a guy, ask him out and so on and so forth, but for some reason the guy thinks that I am smitten and he can sit back on his arse and do nothing, and put forth no effort. So until guys truly want an independant girl, I will have to play the old fashioned role and wait for him to pursue me.
I am not so sure that you guys really want an independent girl, I think you just want one that doesn't cramp your style. An independent girl will tell it like it is and doesn't give a hoot if it hurts your feelings.
So, what most men really want when they say they want an independent girl,,,is a girl that still lets them do whatever they want and did before they were in a relationship. A truly independant girl won't put up with any BS, and will kick you to the curb before the car even stops rolling.
I welcome any guy that is really up to the challenge of an independent girl, You gotta be on your best behavior,,,you just might find yourself locked outa your house on a cold rainy night if you piss her off, cuz she doesn't need you, she choose you and she can unchoose you.
Interesting...you say you've asked out hundreds of men who you just want to sleep with. I guess you're not one of the ladies who would get upset if a guy you asked out assumed you just wanted to sleep with them .

I don't know if I would consider the attitude I think you're considering "independent" as what I would consider an independent attitude. Correct me if I'm wrong but I would interpret the "kick them to the curb" attitude as being hostile, not independent. If a woman treated me how you described I would dump her in a heartbeat.

I don't see how getting locked out of my house because I wasn't on my "best behavior" is independent. I'd probably break into my house and kick her out...for good. I hope you're exaggerating but I don't see why it's OK for her to "tell it like it is and doesn't give a hoot if hurts his feelings" but he has to be on his best behavior...or else! This attitude is immature and I don't even associate with people who have it, let alone date them. You don't get respect without giving it.

Think about this in reverse. Would you want to go out with an "independent" man who will say whatever he wants around you and if you don't like it you get kicked out and he moves on? If you don't like how you're being treated, well, bye-bye? Oh, you nagged me about something? Get out.

That doesn't sound very pleasant to me. I would never treat a woman that way without some serious provocation. I believe you can still be respectful and work together while still being "independent." Otherwise why date at all? I value my friends, why wouldn't I value my significant other? This mentality seems very strange to me.

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grlnxtdr wrote :
I have asked out guys before, probably hundreds...unfortunatly the guys haven't caught up with the independent female movement and get the wrong idea, like I just want to sleep with them. It scares guys off too much if I take intiative. The guys I have dealt with can't handle it. With the switching of the roles every things gets confused. I can call a guy, ask him out and so on and so forth, but for some reason the guy thinks that I am smitten and he can sit back on his arse and do nothing, and put forth no effort. So until guys truly want an independant girl, I will have to play the old fashioned role and wait for him to pursue me.
I am not so sure that you guys really want an independent girl, I think you just want one that doesn't cramp your style. An independent girl will tell it like it is and doesn't give a hoot if it hurts your feelings.
So, what most men really want when they say they want an independent girl,,,is a girl that still lets them do whatever they want and did before they were in a relationship. A truly independant girl won't put up with any BS, and will kick you to the curb before the car even stops rolling.
I welcome any guy that is really up to the challenge of an independent girl, You gotta be on your best behavior,,,you just might find yourself locked outa your house on a cold rainy night if you piss her off, cuz she doesn't need you, she choose you and she can unchoose you.
(Grimacing)
I'm not sure if ANYBODY could deal with the described relationship. What's the attractive positive side of this relationship to men? You attract more men with "honey" AND you gotta keep making the "honey" even after you're in a relationship.
 
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jayjay is offline jayjay Post #149  November 30,2009, 3:29pm
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grlnxtdr wrote :
I am not so sure that you women really want an independent man, I think you just want one that doesn't cramp your style. An independent man will tell it like it is and doesn't give a hoot if it hurts your feelings.
So, what most women really want when they say they want an independent man,,,is a man that still lets them do whatever they want and did before they were in a relationship. A truly independant man won't put up with any BS, and will kick you to the curb before the car even stops rolling.
I welcome any woman that is really up to the challenge of an independent man, You gotta be on your best behavior,,,you just might find yourself locked outa your house on a cold rainy night if you piss him off, cuz he doesn't need you, he choose you and he can unchoose you.
How does it sound with the genders reversed? I can just see all the women running from a man who fits this description.
 
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