I'm a woman and tall at 5'10. I enjoy wearing heels of about 2-2.5 inches when I go out. I just feel doudy and slouchy in flat shoes. So after all is said and done, I'm around 6'. I feel strange when I'm standing at 6' and my date is 5'8". I start to feel masculine when I'm larger than the guy. Also, when I was in grade school and was already 5'8", the boys would tease me and wouldn't want anything to do with me because I was so tall. Now, those short boys want a tall woman. So, to some extent, I'm retaliating against the emotional torture I took at a young age. I only date men over 6'. Period.
I'm the same. I'm tall at 5'8" and I can't stand being taller or (around)the same height as my date. It makes me feel like I'm an Amazon standing next to them. It's a rather uncomfortable and insecure feeling when you're with someone and you're not enjoying your self because you're too busy wondering if you look gianormous next to them.
I'm the same. I'm tall at 5'8" and I can't stand being taller or (around)the same height as my date. It makes me feel like I'm an Amazon standing next to them. It's a rather uncomfortable and insecure feeling when you're with someone and you're not enjoying your self because you're too busy wondering if you look gianormous next to them.
So then it's an insecurity issue and you're more worried about what other people think over how enjoyable your date is. Nice to know women will pass up really great guys because they're insecure, or like the poster you quoted, choose to seek revenge for childish insults.
Now, if I were to say I was insecure about being with a woman who was overweight because I'm worried about how other people would look at me and wonder how I could be with such a heffer or be a chubby chaser (or whatever) -- what reaction would I get here from women? Food for thought.
Note: Anyone who knows me here understands my meaning in that last paragraph.
So then it's an insecurity issue and you're more worried about what other people think over how enjoyable your date is. Nice to know women will pass up really great guys because they're insecure, or like the poster you quoted, choose to seek revenge for childish insults.
Now, if I were to say I was insecure about being with a woman who was overweight because I'm worried about how other people would look at me and wonder how I could be with such a heffer or be a chubby chaser (or whatever) -- what reaction would I get here from women? Food for thought.
Note: Anyone who knows me here understands my meaning in that last paragraph.
I do.
Honestly, I think people way overthink, over-criticize and over-analyze both relationships and each other. They also tend to forget that there are actual people on the other end of the computer.
Not to be melodramatic or anything, but when I'm lying on my deathbed I'm not going to be thinking...thank goodness I picked a tall man so people will know I was worthy.
I'm going to be hoping that whatever man I chose *because he made me a priority in his life and treated me with love and respect* is by my side and proud of who we turned out to be togehter.
Some days I really think there is no hope for people and the vast majority of them aren't worth wasting my breath on.
So then it's an insecurity issue and you're more worried about what other people think over how enjoyable your date is. Nice to know women will pass up really great guys because they're insecure, or like the poster you quoted, choose to seek revenge for childish insults.
Now, if I were to say I was insecure about being with a woman who was overweight because I'm worried about how other people would look at me and wonder how I could be with such a heffer or be a chubby chaser (or whatever) -- what reaction would I get here from women? Food for thought.
Note: Anyone who knows me here understands my meaning in that last paragraph.
Lol. Quite frankly sweetie I wouldn't care if you went for the larger women. That's your personal preference and I'm cool with that. After all, you would be the one dating her, not I. Simply because I, myself, am a larger woman also. XD
And I did state it was an insecure feeling, no? And it's not like it couldn't be the other way around either. Each situation can have a vice-versa hun.
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Lol. Quite frankly sweetie I wouldn't care if you went for the larger women. That's your personal preference and I'm cool with that. After all, you would be the one dating her, not I. Simply because I, myself, am a larger woman also. XD
And I did state it was an insecure feeling, no? And it's not like it couldn't be the other way around either. Each situation can have a vice-versa hun.
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My point was not about my personal preferences in women. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Yes, you did state it was an insecurity of yours. This is where I was heading...
My point was that when a man states an insecurity or preference about (not dating) overweight women, he is raked over the coals for being shallow and callous and superficial. However, when a woman states an insecurity about height or (not dating) short men, all is fine and she is not completely shallow and superficial--rather she is quite thoughtful and "self-aware" about her choices in men.
Not sure to what your "vice-versa" specifically refers. Not being insecure about height/weight?
My point was not about my personal preferences in women. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Yes, you did state it was an insecurity of yours. This is where I was heading...
My point was that when a man states an insecurity or preference about (not dating) overweight women, he is raked over the coals for being shallow and callous and superficial. However, when a woman states an insecurity about height or (not dating) short men, all is fine and she is not completely shallow and superficial--rather she is quite thoughtful and "self-aware" about her choices in men.
Not sure to what your "vice-versa" specifically refers. Not being insecure about height/weight?
My point was not about my personal preferences in women. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Yes, you did state it was an insecurity of yours. This is where I was heading...
My point was that when a man states an insecurity or preference about (not dating) overweight women, he is raked over the coals for being shallow and callous and superficial. However, when a woman states an insecurity about height or (not dating) short men, all is fine and she is not completely shallow and superficial--rather she is quite thoughtful and "self-aware" about her choices in men.
Not sure to what your "vice-versa" specifically refers. Not being insecure about height/weight?
I see your point. And the vice-versa was towards both situations. The overweight woman could be insecure or happy, so could the short man. There are a number of possibilities in which these situations can come out.
And I am not trying to state that it is not shallow when the woman says she prefers taller men. Since everyone is shallow in one way or another. I just see it as their preference. Sure some of it is influenced by family, peers and media, but it's still what they want.
I think both genders get pointed at for these remarks. Some just more openly then others. And yes it is often men that get it the most when they state their preference, but it is those people that he doesn't prefer that get all up in arms about it. Same goes for when a woman says she likes taller men then shorter ones. The shorter men get offended just as likely as an overweight woman would. Women are just more likely to bitch about to their friends then men. Hence why men, openly, get it worse.
My point was not about my personal preferences in women. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Yes, you did state it was an insecurity of yours. This is where I was heading...
My point was that when a man states an insecurity or preference about (not dating) overweight women, he is raked over the coals for being shallow and callous and superficial. However, when a woman states an insecurity about height or (not dating) short men, all is fine and she is not completely shallow and superficial--rather she is quite thoughtful and "self-aware" about her choices in men.
Not sure to what your "vice-versa" specifically refers. Not being insecure about height/weight?
When any of us, male or female, begins to make sweeping generalizations about realities or perceptions ... it all goes wrong. I do not have coals or a rake - nor do many of the women who post here. Is this really true all the time? Has this been your experience with all the posting that you do? I dare say you wouldn't hang around if that was truly the case. Is the perception possibly skewed because women out number men or because it's another hot button topic.
As an example, in another thread, I posted a picture of myself with my special person. I couldn't figure out how to add a caption - wanting to point out that tall, slender men can sometimes find themselves with a body type they hadn't expected - hopefully showing that anything is possible -- but, in the time it took me to edit my picture with text, someone posted a horribly hurtful comment reflecting on the fact that I wasn't good 'breeding stock'. I haven't posted for days trying to figure out what if anything I should care about regarding that.
Now, what most people don't know is that I've lost 160 pounds by eating less and moving around more - no surgery. My journey is significant and important. Just to stand near anyone and love them, must less be worthy of love and still be overweight -- is kinda amazing. It could happen to anybody.
But I've gotten off track - I'm just back from a 3 mile walk - over and back on the 192 Causeway (a formidable incline 2x) and am in need of a shower.
The thing is, we don't know everyone, we can only speak for ourselves - but what we say impacts individuals - I think a great many people could use a smack with the 'play nice' stick.
Now, what most people don't know is that I've lost 160 pounds by eating less and moving around more - no surgery. My journey is significant and important. Just to stand near anyone and love them, must less be worthy of love and still be overweight -- is kinda amazing. It could happen to anybody.
But I've gotten off track - I'm just back from a 3 mile walk - over and back on the 192 Causeway (a formidable incline 2x) and am in need of a shower.
Good for you! Err, not so much the needing a shower part. More the stuff before that caused the needing a shower part. *grin* And the nifty stuff before that, too. Good on you both!
I think *everyone* enjoys that feeling one gets when the exercise pays off, and you have more energy and don't get tired as often. I know I do. I like to focus on the good stuff. More energy = longer playtime. I've never really gone far past this adolescent view on exercise... But it has worked for me so far.
When any of us, male or female, begins to make sweeping generalizations about realities or perceptions ... it all goes wrong. I do not have coals or a rake - nor do many of the women who post here. Is this really true all the time? Has this been your experience with all the posting that you do? I dare say you wouldn't hang around if that was truly the case. Is the perception possibly skewed because women out number men or because it's another hot button topic.
The thing is, we don't know everyone, we can only speak for ourselves - but what we say impacts individuals - I think a great many people could use a smack with the 'play nice' stick.
It's not a hot button topic for me at all. And, no, being raked over the coals is not my personal experience on these boards. Not in the least.
I was merely "speaking up" for some men who have experienced this on these boards and may not have the gumption to smack back when they get hit with the "double standard" weight/height stick.
I'll drop kick double standards for women just as much as I will for men. I have in the past and will do so in the future.
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