I agree with MISSMDIATLANTIC. It is funny that the women who say the most important factor they want in a guy is HONESTY are the same ones who post outdated photos. Is that honesty on their part?? I am probably one of the few who give my weight and height, and am not boasting since I am 6ft and 230lbs today, not a great bod when you are 62.(for most guys) Some athletes can be 6ft 230lbs and look great, oh to be young! I would date a 6ft tall lady who is not larger than me. Lets face it, a critical part of chemistry is looks, most of us can find someone attracted to us physically, the catch is both people feeling the same. We have all been down the ONE WAY STREET of chemistry, have some patience,keep thinking postive and some TWO WAY STREETS will appear!! I wish all the best in this process,. Bill
Certainly the majority of the time during which the human species has been evolving height and physical power were traits that improved one's ability to survive long enough to produce offspring. Erina Lee strongly claims that a woman's preference for men with height in a range is somehow biologically hard-wired. Is this a fact? It is just as plausible that height preference is socially learned or determined by what works out best in the bedroom, which may change as sexual fashion changes. Second, if height preference is hard-wired, it is a vestigial trait at best. Perhaps in the wild, bigger was better. But in the age of the machines, intelligence reigns supreme. That we tend to select attractive, powerful mates over intelligent ones is indeed evidence that our preferences are hard-wired to some extent (but not proof). I would not claim this to be a certainty nor would I claim that its vestigial purpose (a better hunter, protector) is relevant in today's world. Again, intelligence reigns supreme. Darwin's slow mechanism of natural selection likely will not learn this before we take care of it ourselves: we are evolving faster than nature's feeble speeds--we have philosophy, culture, and science.
I am 5'9". H.S dances when there weren't enough guys- guess who they pick to fill in? You guessed it- the tall girls! Still happens today when I go to contra dances! For me, I prefer men taller than me, must be childhood trauma.
I work with a guy 6'5". His wife is 5'0". I asked him why he didn't marry a women who was taller- he said he liked very petite women because he liked feeling big n' strong (masculine). So, I guess it works both ways...
Comment to MarkMinn: Huh? It's really not all that complicated! And I think you are confusing "bigger" with "taller". It's more of a proportion thing. I am tall at 5'10" and love it! I just feel more feminine with a man that is taller than myself. It is interesting that the one thing that I marked as "very important" in the initial eHarmony survey was "height"! And then I find out they don't match on that criteria! I was matched with a man that was 5'2"! Hello? I am sure most shorter men would feel just as uncomfortable as I would! I recently met of my matches that was 6'4" and thought that this was going to be wonderful! I traveled quite a distance at a considerable expense only to meet him and find out his posture was very poor and he was so thin that he looked anoxexic. He professed to weigh about 150-160#, which is about what I weigh, but also said he may weigh less. He was so thin that I was afraid that if I hugged him too hard that I would end up behind him! So even his height didn't make a difference here. It was a definite no-go in terms of any romantic connection and I learned a lot from this meeting. So the height factor will always be a part of the equation for me. On the other side of the coin, my daughter who is the same height as me has no problem dating shorter men. And, my youngest son, bless his heart, is a whopping 6'9" tall! He's single and available, too! I love it when I am with him! I feel petite and pretend he is my bodyguard!
Most stories that I've heard about tall women, is that they reject guys cause they're not tall enough. They did a survey at a local radio station about this issue on height with people calling in. The DJ knew a women who was 5'10" but turned 40 years old before she got married. The guy she married was 6'4". I find this to be very ignorant. Why give up the chance to have a happy life with someone based on height? But then most of our society is driven by ignorance.
So there are "stories" out there about tall women? How amusing! And a local radio station call-in - now there's a reliable source of information! Just what in the world is "ignorant" about a woman, 40 yrs old, marrying a man 6'4"? The fact she waited until she was 40? I don't see how that is "ignorant"! The fact a tall woman choses a tall man is simply one of the basic things about attraction. Different people are attracted to different things. There is nothing "ignorant" about our choices of what is attractive! It is simply that, a personal choice. Your comment has absolutely no substance, or sense, for that matter.
I'm 5'5 inches and I don't like to date guys shorter than me. It's not much of a problem since I'm about average height and when I wear 2.5 inch heels, I am close to 5.7. I'm partial to taller guys but I won't rule out someone who is closer to my height as long as he isn't shorter than me.
I'm 5'9" and enjoy wearing heels. It's not that I'm not willing to date shorter men. It's simply that I got tired of guys telling me that I had to ditch the shoes and/or slouch in order to be seen in public with them a long time ago. At this point, my preference is for a man who is tall enough not to care and/or secure enough in himself not to care about the fact that in my favorite shoes, I'm over 6' tall. Frankly, if a date comes to the door and makes a comment about my height in shoes, that's it. Go home, do not pass "GO", do not go to dinner or a movie, do not collect $200. The killer is that many of the tall men that I know consider tall women to be unfeminine.
Mldiluna thats definitely a matter of preference. I'm 6'3 and in my mind feminine or masculine tend to be more action based than physical appearance based. I tend to prefer a woman who physically speaking appears more masculine, like a lady that might play a sport, but I also appreciate that the same lady acts at least with me in a more feminine way. I once dated a young lady who participated in a martial art 3 times a week, but it never crossed my mind that she was masculine because that isn't how she acted outside of the practice mat.
I HATE TO DISAGREE ABOUT THE SHORT VS. TALL ISSUE , BUT BEING A MAN WHO IS 5' 6" I KNOW THE MEASURE OF A MAN IS NOT HIS HEIGHT.I AM TOTALLY SECURE WITH THE MAN AND PERSON I AM AND THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS I HAVE IN MY LIFE.A KIND HEART,INTELLIGENCE,UNDERSTANDING AND HUMOR ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS A PERSON SHOULD BE LOOKING FOR IN A PARTNER.AS A MAN I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF A WOMAN.I AM MORE INTERESTED IN THE HEART OF A WOMAN AND THE PERSON SHE IS AND I WOULD HOPE WOMEN WOULD BE MORE CONCERNED WITH THE SAME.I WOULD BE MUCH HAPPIER WITH A PARTNER WHO HAD A GOOD HEART AND TREATED ME WITH RESPECT, WHETHER SHE WAS TALLER OR SHORTER THAN A PARTNER WHO MISTREATED ME (OH, BUT SHE IS SHORTER THAN ME)!THE STRENGTH OF A PERSON IS NOT DETERMINED BY THIER HEIGHT.LADIES DON'T MISS OUT BY JUST LOOKING FOR A TALLER MAN WHEN YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT IS ON TOP (HIS HEAD) BECAUSE HE IS TALLER.
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