BlackberryAddict is offline BlackberryAddict Post #61  November 15,2008, 1:51pm
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WeDesignOurLives,342999 wrote :


Do you think there is a difference between someone who is curious, someone who loves to learn, and someone who seeks personal improvement?


I can only speak for myself, and say that I am all three. I don't believe someone who loves to learn would not also be curious. Perhaps they could be not interested in personal improvement? But IMO any intelligent person knows they can be improved upon :-) and usually intelligent people are curious and have a love of learning so no, there is no difference IME because each thing feeds on another.
 
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3dimension, wrote :

My work place reviews are due this week and my supervisor discussed training and education etc.* And the thought crossed my mind " Has anyone closed a match based purely on someone's academic education level?" If so what is the assumption?*


Personally, I'm a Uni drop out.* I couldn't stand, what I perceived to be a pretentious learning environment.* I'm earning the*equivalent of my degree-qualified friends, so I'm curious, is "education level"*a euphemism for "earning capacity" or potential wealth?
I could not do my job without the degrees I have earned, they are required...
 
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Gr8Guyn2008,342356 wrote :

Jelize,340145 wrote :


Gr8Guyn2008,339950 wrote :


LonelyStarState,335090 wrote :


to me, 'education' more often then not means that someone had the discipline to undertake years of study and to actually complete it.


also, though not necessarily true 100% of the time, folks who went to college have just a little more interesting things to talk about (ie: art, history, science etc) thought this may be subjective.





Of course someone with education would know the difference between "then" and "than".


Hey now, be careful, sometimes even highly educated people have brain glitches and without realizing it, type something like "then" rather than "than". It doesn't necessarily mean they don't know the difference. The following is not bragging, but defense: I have a fairly high IQ and over 130 hrs of college credit (didn't graduate because kept changing my mind about my major...) but have typed their instead of there (or v.v.) without realizing it til after posting or emailing, even tho' I know the difference. These are Not fair judges of education, or even good spelling. I don't spell as well as when I was younger (for some words), but I came in second place in a spelling bee in elementary school, and reading and grammar were my best subjects. Remember also, that some people (like me), have ADD, and are just sometimes scatterbrained and are therefore more likely to make a mistake like then instead of than, their instead of there, etc. Now, I will say that when matches do this in their profile tho', it kind of bothers me because I can't relate to not proofreading something as important as your match profile... J


And I like to poke fun at LSS and I am pretty sure that he is not going to take offense.


P.S. I don't know how many hours I have at university but it is something like 3 times what you have. That does not make me smart or educated. It just means that I did not have enough sense to leave after I got my degree.


P.P.S. I used to be able to spell (and type) better but spell checkers have turned my mind to mush. It would be nice if the spell checker here worked.
How can you say that nearly 400 hours of college education doesn't make you educated?


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ImmanuelInMyHeart,335603 wrote :

Some of the most intelligent and gifted people I (have) know(n) have had little or no formal education. Formal schooling is not necessarily a good way to judge a persons skills or potential. I don't personally consider formal, educational statusas an important factor with a woman.
I 100% agree. I had set my eharmony matching to "not important" because I was interested in an intelligent man, but not necessarily someone who was book smart and relied on formal education. My husband (yes, I said husband - from eharmony) dropped out of HS in 10th grade because his mother was dying of cancer. He never went back. He enlisted in the Air Force about a decade later and is a senior NCO who is travelled and educated and intelligent. I am a health care professional with an advanced degree and a much bigger paycheck than him and so am not reliant upon his paycheck, but our intelligence levels are not disparate like our earnings and our years of schooling (or my years of school loans). Anyone who reallyknew me before I met my husband is not surprised that I did not have an "educational requirement" because I had always said that formal education is not as important as being an intelligent, inquisitive person.
 
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LonelyStarState,335090 wrote :

I'm a PhD so to me education does matter. I usually find that I am most compatible with people with at least an MA but that is because people without graduate degrees seem to have odd responses to my degrees. The responses usually fall the following ways:


1. The Educational Apologist: These are the people who find out about my degrees and feel the need to apologize for not having a lot of education. Most have Bachelors degrees but feel the need to discuss why they never got a Masters degree.


2. The Educational Elitist: Similar to a comment already posted. These individuals either have a Bachelors or dropped out of the University. They use phrases like "well I would have gotten another degree but felt I had skills so those who can do and those who can't teach". I am not sure if they realize quite how insulting that is. They ridcule people with degrees because they are "as successful and smart" and the people with all that education. These are the same charmers who generally ask me how much I make.


3. The "Great Let's Order": My favorite the men who simply ask whether I like calamari (yes especially with those sweet hot peppers on them)? They are not intimidated or insecure by my education they feel no need to defend theres or ridicule mine.


Ah my kingdom for a man who is comfortable in his own skin.




I'm a PhD so to me education does matter. I usually find that I am most compatible with people with at least an MA but that is because people without graduate degrees seem to have odd responses to my degrees. The responses usually fall the following ways:


1. The Educational Apologist: These are the people who find out about my degrees and feel the need to apologize for not having a lot of education. Most have Bachelors degrees but feel the need to discuss why they never got a Masters degree.


2. The Educational Elitist: Similar to a comment already posted. These individuals either have a Bachelors or dropped out of the University. They use phrases like "well I would have gotten another degree but felt I had skills so those who can do and those who can't teach". I am not sure if they realize quite how insulting that is. They ridcule people with degrees because they are "as successful and smart" and the people with all that education. These are the same charmers who generally ask me how much I make.


3. The "Great Let's Order": My favorite the men who simply ask whether I like calamari (yes especially with those sweet hot peppers on them)? They are not intimidated or insecure by my education they feel no need to defend theres or ridicule mine
 
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BlackberryAddict,337516 wrote :

Emme,336784 wrote :


My longest relationship was with a lovely man who had a GED and just a couple of college courses. He was a Maytag repairman and was smart and funny and kind and all the things I really want in a man. The only potential downside that might be related to his not having as much education as I did was that he didn't read. Ever. Or anything. I keep up on current events and read all sorts of books and magazines and found it occasionally hard to talk to him about certain things because he wasn't aware of the issues to the degree I was. But that was small potatoes. I like very smart men, but there are all different kinds of intelligence and not all are related to book learning and formal education. I won't rule anyone "in" or "out" based on formal education.


I whole-heartedly agree with this statement.


"Education" does not happen solelywithin the walls of schools. For those who believe this: do youfeel homeschooled childrenare not 'educated'? IMHO the truly intelligent continue to learn throughout their lifetime. Ifthey stop at grade 12, or after a few years of college, they're not as intelligent as some here would have us believe.


JFTR, two of the most intelligent men I've known did not make it to high school. They had good reasons for not continuing their 'formal education'and it did not stop either of them from continuing to learn,nor did itblock them fromsuccess. Both make a very good living. Having a piece of papermight have made their climb a little easier, but they may not be the people they are had they not had to work so hard to get where they are now.

I believe anintelligent man with determination and goals can accomplish so much more than a unimaginative or lazy man; acollege degree or "formal education" does notchange that fact. Formal education alonedoes not make a man successful, the man makes himself successful.


BTW, if you didn't notice, Iquestion the'formal education' process because for too many people it crushesthe imagination and the love of learning!
Yes, Blackberry addict, formal education for so many crushed the love of learning! I work in schools and i know.....Too many people think school is the only place one can "learn"..... It's our ingrained belief in compulsory education and all the statistics that go with it that is wrong! School doesnt want you to know that there are many successful drop outs. Schools dont want you to know that you can get into many colleges without a high school diploma.


Everyone makes their own judgement as to who is "smart" and what kind of personalities theycan get along with.
 
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Intellectually, you have to be able to meet at a similar level. The same goes for work ethic and drive in life. I've tried dating less (on the work ethic/drive side) and it just doesn't work. That doesn't mean that 2 people will necessarily have the same educational level. But I have met some pretty smart and intellectually stimulating business and military people,anda few didn't have thedegrees. (my own grandfather had an 8th grade education and could use a slide rule; he was a good farmer,and had good timingwith buying land after the Depression).
 
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Altair,335111 wrote :

You can not have gone to college and still be educated and intelligent. A lot of successful people dropped out of school. I thought I heard Bill Gates was one of them. If your match has a profile with a lot of bad English then maybe uneducated- or just a lousy scammer!! lol
as an "old goat", who is probably "over educated", I have found a lot of lovely/companion ladies who ,while non-degreed have become well educated through the "school of life" and make quite delightful companions. To me "attitude" is more important than knowing the capital of Bosniaoe the name of the Attorney General.
 
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After reading through all of the comments, I am surprised at how many people place so much importance on a degree. Like many others, I have met many that have Master Degrees, and even a few that have Ph. D's, but have trouble tying their shoes. I have also know some brilliant individuals that have not even graduated high school. Education is very important, but all a degree proves is that you had the drive to complete a task. So basing compatibility on whether or not someone has checked a box is very narrow sighted. Do i have a degree? No, but I have just as much, if not more education than those that do. I earned a commission in the Navy without degree based on hard work, and the desire to learn. Also i study a wide range of topics on a regular basis to keep expanding my mind. Learning doesn't stop when you graduate. What do i do for a living? I'm a computer programmer and business analyst. What's my whole point? You can do anything you want to do in life, and having a piece of paper doesn't guarantee success. If you have the desire to succeed, and the drive to learn, you can do anything.
 
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