i once had a man pick me up for a date and instead of coming to the door, he honked his horn. i'm kinda stubborn so i just stayed in the house, and then he called from his cell phone all upset "I'm outside waiting for you!"
i told him i knew he was outside, i was waiting for him to get the hint and come to the door like a gentleman.
i dunno. i'd like to see a return of manners in general.
See...your example is one of modern but nasty behavior.
I think manners, in general, should always rule. However, when I hear the phrase "old fashioned" all I think of are good manners and effort in one direction > from the man to the woman. I know, this sounds unfair, but that's what I think. Usually, its formed in a statement like this; "
I have old fashioned values. I expect the man to chase me, hold open the door, stand up when I enter the room, ask me out, call me, take care of me, etc." But I never hear old fashioned behavior that goes the other direction (other than not having sex with him).
what kind of old fashioned behavior do you want to see from a woman?
None! Like I said, I think "old fashioned" behavior has no place in my life.
That being said, I expect civility from a woman. I expect to be treated equally (and I give the same). I expect to be treated the way SHE wants to be treated. No more no less. Again, to me, "old fashioned" behavior is sexism masked as good behavior. Sure, you get the door opened for you and the other nice things done for you but its done because you're a
woman-If a man does this with old fashioned notions, he might also believe the negative values are also valid. The idea that you're weaker, not capable, not equipped for the outside world.
Modern civil behavior should cause people, without regard to gender, to do nice things for each other.