Ladies: Do You Intimidate Men?

This makes me want to throw up.

Thank God for all these angry girls. I can see that they will make it a lot easier for me to find a good man. What guy wants to be told what to do and challenged all day at work? Then take some bossy argumentative chick to dinner and pay for it too. You tell'em girls.

This article BLOWS! Are you serious? "Wear light makeup, soft colors, let HIM pick the restaurant, let HIM take the lead, don't argue (disagree quietly)"??? I guess I should just go ahead an wear a BURKA TOO RIGHT?

I'm not against being "lady-like" but some of these things listed are just absolutely ridiculous! If we were living in Iraq, maybe I would agree with this article.

You are kidding right? i worked hard for everything i have. i act like a lady on a date but when he asks what i think about a subject, I'm going to to tell him in a VERY educated way. I tried playing the dumb blonde role, it wasn't me. i worked hard for my MBA and my degree in Marketing and NO MAN is going to take that from me because he needs to feel important about himself. If i can not be the women I am with my date then we don't need to date. "dumbing it up" as they say is just another form of lying.

I find this article insulting!

I am a strong woman, and I refuse to sit there and act like a "woman" on a date, i don't want a man who wants me to be a stereotypical version of female I want a man who is going to respect me for my strong opinions, challenge me on my opinions and be up to the task. I don't want to play up the fact that I am a woman by dressing "feminine" and wearing heals if that is not who I am. I don't wear heals, they kill my feet. There are qualities on that list that I expect from a man, like being a good listener. Everyone needs to feel needed, but playing up the gender binary in order to get some man into my pants is demeaning for women who do not fall in the "feminine" extreme. I can be a woman in men's trousers, while expressing my opinion. No I am not going to deck him if he doesn't agree, but I am not going to roll over on an opinion or statement I don't agree with. I think the way this article stresses that women should "Play up" their femininity does not represent the true continuum of women and experiences of being a woman. and if a man has a problem with my strong nature well than, he's not the one for me. I want a man coming from a date thinking I am dynamic, strong, and Not that I need him, but that I want him. I don't need to dress in frills to get those points across.

I read the article and comments and I think they are more suggestions that should be tailored to the situation and person.

Re: ordering for me ~ I have no issue with a man ordering for me IF HE KNOWS the restuarant better than me. But if it is a first time for both of us ~ heck what is wrong with each of us ordering what we like and maybe sharing a taste?

Re: saying thank you ~ Someone said it was proper etiquitte to send a thank you note ~ I disagree. It is proper to send one if someone sends you a gift or has done a kindness for you. BUT why over kill the sentiment if I genuinely thanked him at the end of the date? I think it almost borders on being needy? or lack of self confidence?

The way I see it is ~ if he likes you and you thanked him ~~ he will ask you out again if he is interested. If he makes the effort to call you when he gets home ~ then thank him again. Maybe Im just lazy but I just can't be arsed to write a thank you note for a date ~ too much over the top for me. :eek:

This would be one BORING date if a woman followed these rules:

4.Don’t be argumentative when you disagree with something he says – agree to disagree and be a good listener.

5. Don’t talk about work on your date.

6. Let him lead (order for you, open doors, hail the cab, etc)

9. Be appreciative. Thank him for choosing such an excellent restaurant and for planning a wonderful evening. Let him know he did a good job and that you had a really nice time.

A date like this wouldn't seem interesting at all.

I disagree with number 2, sure you want to show a bit of feminity, but I don't believe you have to go all out with wearing a dress, heels and make up. Just wear something that looks nice. I wouldn't think wearing pants would hurt as long as it wasn't something like jeans and dress shoes probably work okay. Really, I think it just depends on what your date likes. Sometimes you want to keep it casual.

LDJ: So, then you send another text or make a call instead. If I like a guy I would not label this behaviour as desperite, I would be flattered and impressed by his proactive efforts. But yes, everyone is different.

My general rule is I give several days for her to return a call or text, then I will follow-up ONCE. My point is some people appear (a lot is lost in context on the internet) to view that as lukewarm, or a bit of indifference. But there clearly are men AND women who view things as a tennis match, and when you take that mindset you run the risk of someone being confused and/or not aware it's actually their turn. At the risk of generalizing, women tend to sit back more and wait to be pursued, but there certainly are men out there with a similar perspective gauging response and initiative as an indication of interest, particularly in cases of multi-dating.

I don't get hung-up on trying to read tea leaves if we've only had 1 or 2 dates. Truthfully we barely know each other at that point, and if her every thought isn't obsessed with me I'm not offended or hurt/disappointed by that.