7 Signs of a Desperate Dater

by eHarmony Staff


7 Signs of a Desperate Dater

We've all seen it before. The crazy, overeager smile. That "please love me" tone. Desperation isn't pretty, and if you're the one feeling slightly under pressure it can be hard to know the difference between reasonable pro-activity and sad, demeaning behavior. We've cooked up this short guide to help you keep yourself in check.


Desperate Daters are ALWAYS available.

You really liked him. The first date was terrific and he hasn't called in four days, so you're a little bit worried that he isn't as enthusiastic as you are. Holy smokes! The phone rings, it's him and he says, "What are you doing right now? Wanna grab some dinner?" 

"YES. YES. YES. COME PICK ME UP!"

That's what you're thinking, but what does it say about you that a 6:20 pm phone call is plenty of notice for a 6:30 pm dinner date. "Well," you might say, "I'm an adult, and not into games, so why should I pretend to be busy?" And you're right, dating isn't a game - it's a dance. You're teaching this new person how you like to dance by the treatment you accept. If you want to be completely honest with the caller you could say, "I don't accept dinner dates 10 minutes before dinner," but the kinder, less aggressive way to teach this person that you have too much of a life to be available at the drop of a hat is to say, "I'm busy tonight, but let's set something up for this weekend."

If you choose to answer this call and say, "Sure, I'm free. Let's go to dinner," it isn't the end of the world. For the caller, however, it is impossible not to take note of your availability. You're starting to establish the pattern of desperation.


Desperate Daters are clingy.

It's a basic human behavior. The things that we believe to be abundant get less attention. The things we believe to be scarce and valuable get lots of attention. It makes lots of sense in the jungle, but focusing your attention like a laser beam on a potential relationship partner can spell doom.

Desperate daters are scared that they are going to be dumped. They believe there are few good candidates out there, and if they lose this person…they will be crushed!

So they hold on tightly. They ask a lot of prying questions, "What did you do last night? Who was there?" They stay as close as possible under the assumption that being nearby can prevent their prize from escaping. Of course, nothing could be further from the truth.

Southern Rockers 38 Special had it just right, "Hold on loosely, but don't let go. If you cling too tightly, you're gonna lose control."


Desperate Daters need constant relationship status updates.

It's not uncommon for a 5-year-old to climb into the car for a long trip and ask the driver 15 minutes later, "Are we there yet? How many more miles?" There are many grown men and women who act the same way with their romantic relationships. These relationship conversations (we like the term "State of the Union" conversations) can come over and over as the desperate partner seeks for some handle they can use to sooth their fear of being abandoned. "What are we? What are we doing? Are we insert next life hurdle here?"

Not sure of what's going on, some will play along, trying to give the fearful partner a sense of comfort and ease. It sometimes works - for awhile. More often the desperate party's constant need for reassurance leaves the exhausted partner heading for the door. 


Desperate Daters fish for compliments.

Desperate daters need outside encouragement at every turn. They are so desperate to feel good about themselves that they become masters of creating compliments out of thin air. Self-deprecation is the most common tool.

DD: "Wow. I feel so fat."
You: "What are you talking about? You look great."
DD: "Oh REALLY! Thanks so much.

For the less subtle set there's the direct question, "What do you think of my jeans?"… "Do you like my hair?"… "Am I as pretty as Angelina Jolie?"

Or the move where he/she walks in the room strikes a pose and says, "Well?" -- confident that you're not going to say, "You look ridiculous," and waiting for you to shower praise and affection all over them.

This brand of desperation is simply exhausting. Lest you think you can say enough kind things to eventually create a self-assured person, beware. True desperation is a tough hole to patch.


Desperate Daters Drop Their Friends.

If you NEED a relationship, then nothing is going to stand in the way, right? Certainly not the friends who love you and will probably forgive you for dumping them. So goes the logic of the desperate mind.

The problem is that dating a person who puts their entire life on hold for you…is creepy. "I know I usually go to Las Vegas with my friends for March Madness but I just want to be with you." It can be a lot of pressure being the center of someone's universe, and you start to wonder about key traits - like loyalty and dependability - that can have a big impact on whether you choose to pursue a long term relationship someone.

Desperate Daters Drop Their Standards.

Books have been written on the topic of "settling." What is settling? When to settle? And a quick perusal of the eHarmony Advice community shows volumes of thought and debate on the topic.

Clearly, it is possible to want too much from a date or a mate. Downshifting from some overblown list of traits and accomplishments is a wise decision. But we all have an internal sense of what we can attract in the marketplace of life. Dry spells come and go, but life has taught us the kinds of people we can successfully date. Water seeks its own level.

In addition, most people have spent some time thinking about the traits that are important to them -- honesty, stability, curiosity, good work ethic, respectful, etc. These traits become the short list of what you MUST HAVE from a partner to be with them.

The desperate dater is too driven by fear to pay attention to this inner voice. They start to toss these requirements overboard one by one. They believe that their best years are behind them, and that the only way to be in a relationship is to settle for less. Much less.


Desperate Daters Rationalize Bad Treatment.


Continuing with our theme of song lyrics, here's one from Nashville songstress Pam Tillis called, Cleopatra, The Queen of Denial.

"I knew he didn't have any money
Yeah that's why he couldn't buy me a ring
Oh and just because he bought himself a brand new pickup truck
Really didn't prove anything
And he never had to say he loved me
I could see it every time he smiled
Just call me Cleopatra everybody, 'cause I'm the Queen of Denial"

When you are desperate for love you'll take a lot of gruff. In fact, you often don't even notice the poor treatment because acknowledging that you're being treated badly is the first step down the road to walking away.

If you've ever made excuses to your friends for the way your significant other treats you, it's time to take a long hard look at your relationship and priorities. Are you so desperate to be with a person that you'll allow them to treat you like an old shoe?


So in conclusion, if we imagine a person who is the opposite of the one described above we have someone who is:

  • Not always available -- has a busy life and can make time with a little notice.
  • Not Clingy -- comfortable with some space in the relationship.
  • Comfortable without constant relationship updates - likes to let things progress naturally.
  • Secure without artificial compliments.
  • Going to continue to make their friends an important priority.
  • Continuing to maintain reasonable standards for their dates.
  • Not going to tolerate poor treatment in a relationship.


The irony is that while the person we've just described seems like a harder person to date - higher standards, more rules, less available - they are infinitely more likely to end up in a great relationship than the poor desperate soul who is willing to do double-backflips just to be with someone.

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Anonymous

February 11,2012 at 02:35 pm

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Caz

January 28,2012 at 11:07 pm

"The first date was terrific and he hasn't called in four days," - Perhaps he doesn't think it was so terrific. I mean really, how hard is it to pick up the phone a couple days later and say "Hey, I had fun the other night. You wanna do it again sometime?" If he/she hasn't called you in FOUR days, that's not a good sign.
"And you're right, dating isn't a game - it's a dance. You're teaching this new person how you like to dance by the treatment you accept." - Semantics. It's the same thing. It's been called a dance for decades and sometime during the 1980s it became popular to refer to the same thing as a "game".
"If you choose to answer this call and say, "Sure, I'm free. Let's go to dinner," it isn't the end of the world. For the caller, however, it is impossible not to take note of your availability. You're starting to establish the pattern of desperation." - Wow... I'm amazed at the audacity of this statement. So because you had fun on the first date, "dude" hasn't called for four days and then calls you TEN minutes before he wants to go out, it makes you look desperate if you say "yes". Really?! Let's ignore all the red flags coming from his side. You liked this guy, you had a wonderful time, you've been on ONE date. It's not desperate to say "Give me 30 minutes and I can meet you there." or something similar. But it certainly doesn't make you desperate to say "yes" nor does establish the beginnings of a pattern. How absurd.
"Desperate Daters are Clingy" - Having been through issues of this nature myself and counseling friends past such behavior since, I can understand and agree with this statement. However, "So they hold on tightly. They ask a lot of prying questions, 'What did you do last night? Who was there?'" is not necessarily a sign of a Desperate Dater. If you hear this from your S.O., find a safe time to ask if they have ever been cheated on. Even long after I was past my Desperate Dan years, I caught myself asking questions like that because of a recent relationship where she cheated on me. It may not be a desperation thing, it may be a trust thing and that's something else entirely (and often worth working past).
"Desperate Daters fish for compliments." - There's so much wrong with this section I had trouble figuring out where to start. This isn't a desperation thing. It's insecurity. Insecurity lends to desperation, but it feeds into a lot more problems, many of them far more serious.
"The problem is that dating a person who puts their entire life on hold for you…is creepy. 'I know I usually go to Las Vegas with my friends for March Madness but I just want to be with you.'" - So he's desperate if he would rather not go to Vegas in favor of spending time with you? Far be it that he might be "growing up" and no longer have as much interest in such activities. People change, perhaps not entirely, but they shift. I once found wrestling to be the coolest thing ever. Now, I find it sophomoric and childish. I once found baseball to be amazing. Now, it bores me to tears. Before you jump to conclusions, like the author of the article clearly has, consider that he may no longer want to do those things and you just happened to be around when he's shifting away from them.

There's a lot of misinformation in this article that ignores numerous factors due to tunnel-visioning a single act or trait. If we were all so simple, we wouldn't have sites like e-harmony.

Anonymous

January 23,2012 at 02:06 pm

Being the single mother of a 3 year old child I can very rarely plan things too far in advance because things will come up with my son, baby sitters will cancel etc.. So, when I am available I am ready to go.

I understand that this seems a bit self-centered regarding another person's time. My opinion, they like you....they want to see you....should be thrilled that you have the time to get out. Unless they want to spend every evening available at my house. Of course not expecting every situation to be spontaneous and of course some things need to be planned in advance. If a man I like calls me to do something and I have someone to watch my son....I am there. Maybe it comes across as desperate and maybe I am....for adult interaction...etc.. Point is everyone's story is different. It is not black and white. I would resent being regarding as desperate because I do not pretend that I am busy. I crave getting out of the house.

Tujay

January 22,2012 at 09:18 am

I'm definitely not desperate. Most of the time I am very selfish with my time and people keep trying to eat it up! lol... But when I fall in love with someone, it turns me into a weird clingy needy human being, that is for sure. Could it just be that? One person is just in love? Research shows this is a natural response and doesn't necessarily signal anything wrong with someone. Of course it is awkward if not managed correctly and one person isn't feeling the vibe.

66Scorpio

January 21,2012 at 07:29 pm

This has to be taken with a grain of salt. If a person has 5 or more of the signs, then yes. However, just about everyone I have dated or know, including me, scores one to three.

Buttercup

January 20,2012 at 06:46 pm

This article sounds more like a general guideline than absolute rules for dating. See, there are some people that are desperate for dating, but they are so bored in their life without someone that they will jump at the opportunity to go out on a date. So what! That doesn't make them a bad choice to date and it certainly isn't necessarily going to make them 'clingy'. But lets say for the percentage that does end up becoming 'clingy' they do, that doesn't always make them undesirable though. I'm sure there are some people out there that would like somebody clingy. I'm going to bet narcissists and other attention-hungry people would enjoy them. It's also a good chance that other 'desperate' people will enjoy the company of other desperate people. Remember, not everyone is exactly like everyone else, and that's no reason to dismiss those individuals. If you do, it just makes you inconsiderate - almost to the point of being selfish. Not that there's anything wrong with being a little selfish, but I was just making a point.

Bottom line, if you like someone, go ahead and date them. If you don't like them, don't. In my book, it's just wrong to say you're 'busy' when you're not, just to avoid them. Tell them the truth, if they can't handle it, maybe they aren't ready to be dating yet and need some therapy first. There's no need to compromise your integrity or morals and be labeled a liar, right?

Hoped you learned that you're not the only one involved when dating; it takes more than one party. Do yourself a favor and thing for yourself rather than accepting everything eHarmony has to say as the final word in your love life. Good luck, everyone!

Bobzeaux

January 20,2012 at 03:30 am

"The irony is that while the person we've just described seems like a harder person to date - higher standards, more rules, less available - they are infinitely more likely to end up in a great relationship than the poor desperate soul who is willing to do double-backflips just to be with someone."
What if you have higher standards, more rules, aren't always available, and you STILL have yet to be in a good relationship?

Chicka Dee

January 19,2012 at 09:07 pm

I try to balance the line. If I am genuinely interested in the person, I prefer to text instead of call. I get to see the time difference between when I text and when they reply. Also, if someone has a very busy life, they can ignore a text until they have time to respond. I never text twice without a response in between. I never text someone first 2 days in a row. If after two weeks of texting, we have not yet met up to hang out, they have not texted me first, they reply to my text with one word replies, then I know they aren't really into it and I just let that fade into the background. Rather than ask "What were you doing last night, with whom?" I tend to ask things along the lines of "If you were trapped on an island forever and could only eat 3 different foods for the rest of your life, what would you pick?"

I'm not desperate, but when I am interested in a person, I like to make an active effort to show my interest and get to know them. Whether it fizzles out or fires up depends on how interested they are in me and how well we get along. I don't hang my life on getting to know one person picked at random. There are nearly 3 billion people on this planet. Even if it feels right in the first 5 mins, that doesn't mean it will be right for life. I will never settle for less than someone who loves me as much as I love them. You shouldn't settle for less either. I am a lady, looking for a man who is just right for ME. I have a guy I am talking to right now and it seems like if it isn't love, it is at the *absolute least* the beginning of a great friendship. What is love without friendship? I'd rather be on the path to friends and wind up in love than be on the "path to love" and wind up without friends because I came on too strong and they're afraid I can't see them as anything but a potential bf. Make friends first, make love when you're certain it will be returned in kind.

timmy

January 19,2012 at 06:00 pm

Desperate / clingy.... Well Im self employed and there are times my days change and new plans need to be made. If I get that kinda chance I go for it. My thinking is hey this person is worthwhile so why not try and have fun. To me clingy/deperate is when the other wants your attention all the time. Just ended a relationship where I felt that way. She would stall my morning departure and call 4-5 times wondering when Id be back. Making appointments and saying she has no ride, just to find out she did. I am oldschool and feel that yes we need to be close, on that note we all have to live too. my time at work is my time, my break to be myself by myself. When I get back yes you do have my attention! My favorite one was the midday call.... Its really important I tell you now, but Iforgot what I had to tell you! Really?.....

Anonymous

January 19,2012 at 03:46 pm

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